Ray Cox's weblog weighs in on Lindner controversy
Speaker Sviggum said he was greatly offended by the comments and was seriously considering removing him from his chairmanship of the House Economic Development committee. Governor Tim Pawlenty
weighed in, stating that Rep. Lindner's remarks were deeply troubling and that they "do not reflect what the Republican Party is or should be." I have visited with many of my fellow Republican Representatives and find that all are either upset or angry about Rep. Lindner's comments.
It is important to acknowledge that Rep. Lindner has a right to free speech. The Republican party has had trouble with Rep. Lindner saying inappropriate things in the past. Even so, they do not attempt to "muzzle" Rep. Lindner. Our representative form of govenment allows any one of us to draft a bill and offer it for consideration....Rep. Lindner has done that. We also can express our views publicly in America. Rep. Lindner has done that. Thousands of men and women have given their lives over the years to protect these very valuable rights. Like many other people in our society, you do not have to agree with Rep. Lindner's thoughts or statements, but you cannot take away his right to make those statements.
EY: I think the ethics complaints are not the way to go. It would be better to remove Lindner from his committee. It is a legitimate criticism of the Republican Party that they endorse Lindner, and basically kick out Sheila Kiscaden and Martha Robertson.
Saturday, March 22, 2003
Ray Cox's weblog weighs in on Lindner controversy
Posted by lloydletta at 6:51 PM
Pausing the Warblog for Now
http://www.kevinsites.net/2003_03_16_archive.html#200025634 reported by Rebecca's Pocket.
First-person account of a solo journalist's life on the front lines of war.
Note: Kevin Sites is a CNN correspondent, but this is a personal website not affiliated with, endorsed by, or funded by CNN. Archives of Kevin's work are available here, and at CNN.com.
Posted by lloydletta at 12:29 AM
Plugged In: Minnesota legislator blogs
from the St Paul Pioneer Press
Rep. Ray Cox, R-Northfield, claims to be the first state legislator and one of the first U.S. elected officials to launch a weblog on a campaign Web site.
Weblogs or "blogs" are online journals with musings, rants or newsy tidbits posted frequently, often daily.
Cox says his blog "allows me to talk about topics I think people are interested in. I update the site on my own, and people can read an unedited version of my views on state and local issues."
Cox launched the blog with help from Northfield-based consulting firm Wigley & Associates in late December, shortly after he was elected. See www.raycox.net.
Posted by lloydletta at 12:03 AM
Friday, March 21, 2003
Major General Robert T. Clark's nomination as Lt General - Log Cabin Republican Position
Call and write Senator Norm Coleman and President Bush know that you are a Log Cabin Republicans of Minnesota Member when you email him to express your concerns about this nomination.
Log Cabin Republicans of Minnesota
Bush Re-Nominates Controversial General for High Ranking Army Post
by Doreen Brandt
March 14, 2003
12:02 a.m. ET/+5GMT/-3PT
(Washington, D.C.) President George W. Bush has re-nominated Major General Robert T. Clark, former commanding general of Fort Campbell, Ky., to Lieutenant General, the Army's second highest rank. The nomination is before the Senate Armed Services Committee. During the last session of Congress, the Committee did not act on the nomination due to serious concerns about MG Clark's leadership before and after the murder of PFC Barry Winchell at Fort Campbell. Winchell, who was dating a transgendered woman was accused of being gay and beaten to death by two fellow soldiers. Winchell endured constant anti-gay harassment in the months leading up to his murder. He reported the harassment to Clark's Inspector General, who failed to act, sending him back to a chain of command that had harassed him. A Department of the Army Inspector General report found that Clark failed to order required training on Don't Ask, Don't Tell or on how to address anti-gay harassment.
The Senate Armed Services Committee first received MG Clark's nomination in October 2002. The Committee, then controlled by Democrats, required Clark to defend his nomination in a closed-door hearing. Despite requests Winchell's parents were not allowed to present evidence to the Committee. Clark's renomination is being opposed by a coalition including the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, an organization representing gays and lesbians in the armed services, People for the American Way, the National Organization for Women, the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, the Human Rights Campaign and Michigan's Triangle Foundation. The Senate now in Republican control is expected to endorse Clark's nomination.
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>The Bush administration has once again submitted Major General Robert T. Clark for promotion to the rank of three-star general, the second-highest
rank in the Army. <<
Regarding the above statement, I just got a call from DC and yes, LCR national is working as, I thought, to prevent this from happening, although Clark has a lot of political support. They have had conversation with Sen. John Warner, Chair of the Armed services committee, the White House and Dept of Defense. Patrick G. does not want this to happen. These are all going on quietly due to the current scenario in Iraq and it is not the time for a press release. Feel free to let others know our position.
David A. Hanson, Pres. LCC
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigue
of supporting it."
- Patrick Henry
Posted by lloydletta at 8:35 PM
Peter McLaughlin and the Green Institute
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Subject: [Mpls] Phillips Garbage Burner
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:36:53 -0600
Tom Wellings writes:
This is REALLY bad! Peter McLaughlin is very scary. Remember when he was pushing the garbage incinerator for Phillips?? . . .
If the issue is the old proposal for a Hennepin County garbage transfer station on what is now the site of the Green Institute, that proposal was
initiated before my time on the County Board. Moreover, I think it's fair to say that I had as much responsibility as any elected official for
helping the neighborhood convince the County Board to abandon this proposal. Feel free to ask Annie Young for confirmation of my role in the
demise of the transfer station.
Posted by lloydletta at 8:20 PM
CCHT Bears False Witness.....
From: Tom Berthiaume
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Subject: [Mpls] CCHT-Alan Arthur
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I think Mr. Arthur's assertion that CCHT... "has has never developed a project without the approval of the neighborhood citizen participation organization." would be challenged by the veterans in Stevens Square, where CCHT forced in one of its projects, The Coyle, despite it being opposed by the Stevens Square Community Organization in two separate votes. This all occurred way back in 1991, though memories of being railroaded die hard I'm told.
More recently, Mr. Arthur inserted himself into the latest and most contentious public policy issue in Stevens Square history, The Lydia House. Did he come down on the side of the neighborhood that vigorously opposed the SEVENTEENTH supportive housing project within a quarter mile? Well, no. In fact, he spoke at the Planning Commission in favor of Lydia House and did so in tones of Olympian derision at the neighborhood's "unfounded fears." The Harrison neighborhood can look forward to similar demagoguery, I fear.
Respect for neighborhoods decisions? I'd say doubtful.
Loring Park, Stevens Square, Whittier
Posted by lloydletta at 8:17 PM
Last night at JACC/City Proposed Pedestrian Overlay & Metro Bus Rapid Transit
posted on the Minneapolis - 3rd Ward egroup.
I attended a meeting of the Jordan Neighborhood Community Council last night, well moderated by Stephen Oates. It was well attended by neighborhood folks, and others. Thomas Leighton, Mpls. Planning Dept., was cautiously promoting neighborhood support for a Pedestrian Overlay District (a Commercial Zoning designation) for Penn and West Broadway. He informed us that the City Council may deliberate on this matter within a couple weeks. He wished to give the Jordan neighborhood community an opportunity to ponder, and voice opinion, on the matter.
I was surprised that he never once read the Mpls. ordinance (or whatever) with the exact wording of what a Pedestrian overlay is, what it does, and what it specifically prohibits and proscribes. He did seem to explain what such a designation is intended to promote. In general he described a more pedestrian friendly streetscape that neighborhood folks can stroll to, from their homes. A place where they can buy from small business's such things as coffee, an ice cream cone, a boutique item, etc. Prohibited items are gas station, fast food w/drive through, new auto parts, and big box retailing.
That may perhaps sound dandy, as offered, but some others, including myself were less indulgent of the presentation. First of all, West Broadway (County HWY 81) was, is, and will be the main commercial corridor, and transport route, of the Northwest quadrant of both Mpls. and the Metro area. In fact, what this road is able to provide in service now, both for transport, and for commercial amenities, is but a small fraction of the growth, and vitality, assured in the not very distant future. The Penn/Broadway intersection may be the keystone, and confluence, of our (Mpls.) West Broadway redevelopment. Do we really want to limit retail, there, to ice cream cones, coffee, and a bibelot? What I call ... the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker!
It appears to me, our City's Planning Department has a directive, or is self directed, to 'dummy down' zoning. It is wrong to castrate major corridors like West Broadway; to limit larger and more diverse commercial uses, either by not allowing adequate, larger, C-2 opportunities, or overlaying them with other restrictions (pedestrian overlay). It saps the ability to compete, and limits adjacent neighborhoods' access to retail buying opportunities, and retail choices. It also restricts locally owned business start up opportunities, and local jobs.
We already have many neighborhood commercial corridors, smaller mixed use streets with room for many more small business's. Streets such as Lowry, Plymouth, Glenwood and Cedar Lake Road, are our 'neighborhood' commercial infrastructure. We also have Lyndale, Emerson, and Penn, for small business, and services, growth. West Broadway shall always allow "The butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker", but our North Mpls. area should not be denied the full opportunity that only our West Broadway can provide us. The other streets mentioned will funnel activity, interest, and vitality to West Broadway. A fully functioning West Broadway will reflect back healthy commercial vigor to all adjacent neighborhoods.
The restructuring of HWY 81 beyond the western City limits, all the way to Rogers is occurring. It is an astounding opportunity for new connection and reconnection of our neighborhoods with the broader Metro Area. In addition, the forthcoming Bus Rapid Transit will help assure further access to those additional jobs that are available in the broader metro area. Of course, the improvements, and streamlining, of a transit corridor present new challenges to our 'main street' along with the opportunities. Penn/Bro will be one of the BRT stops. It will become a collector point for commuters; a destination for suburban spenders. But, people will only visit; stick, stay, and spend, if there is some "THERE", there!! Nor will some coffee, a cookie, and a widget, be a draw that will keep Northside neighbors from driving West, 'over the hill' to Robbinsdale and beyond. And we always take our spending cash with us, now.
Let us not 'dummy down' and hobble, our unique, and highly challenged West Broadway Av. as we enter the new era of reconnection and vitality with the
Northwest Quadrant of the Metro Area. Big avenue; Big zoning/little avenue little zoning. The North side needs, and deserves, one West Broadway Avenue.
Keith Reitman NearNorth
Posted by lloydletta at 8:15 PM
Speculation about Peter McLaughlin's desire to run for Mayor of Minneapolis
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This is REALLY bad! Peter McLaughlin is very scary. Remember when he was pushing the garbage incinerator for Phillips?? This guy would be a disaster for Minneapolis. Say what you want about RT, at least he means well.
--- On Fri 03/21, Dave Piehl < firstname.lastname@example.org > wrote:
From: Dave Piehl [mailto: email@example.com]
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 06:27:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mpls] RT & Peter
From Tom Welling.... "I guess the question might be how strong the relationship between RT & Peter is, I've heard a lot of people say they are feuding - anyone have more info on that?"
Annie Young wrote:
I would suggest you think about who could be possible candidates against RT next time around in the election cycle. I keep hearing Peter is running... could that be why there appears to be strain between them?
David Piehl writes:
I have no idea how accurate it is, but I've been hearing the same thing Annie has, that Peter
McLaughlin wants to run for mayor, or is at least contemplating a run.
Posted by lloydletta at 8:07 PM
Charter jet dumps fuel over South Minneapolis blocks
BY DENNIS LIEN
A four-square-block area of South Minneapolis was showered with jet fuel Friday morning when a TransMeridian 727 charter jet developed engine trouble and was ordered to dump its fuel and return to the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. The jet dumped 4,000 gallons, beginning about Chicago Avenue and 56th to 58th streets and continuing until Hopkins, before returning safely to the airport, according to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. As it gained height, the jet fuel was more likely to evaporate and dissipate.
At least one person was soiled by the fuel and decontaminated by the Minneapolis Fire Department, which was also checking out whether the top of a local supermarket had any pools of fuel. Other properties in the area were sprayed with jet fuel and jet fuel mist.
Because runoff from the area drains into Diamond Lake, the city of Minneapolis was checking to see whether any jet fuel was leaving the lake's storm sewer outfall. If any is found, containment booms and absorbent material will be installed, the agency said. TransMeridian will be responsible for the clean-up.
Anyone whose body or clothing was sprayed with the fuel should remove the clothing and place it outdoors or in a well-ventilated place, then bathe or shower, an MPCA spokesman said.
Clothing should be hand-washed outdoors or in a well-ventilated area. He warned against using a washer and dryer to clean it because that would contaminate the washer and be a fire danger in the dryer. To minimize damage, jet fuel-contaminated cars should be washed as soon as possible.
This sounds like quite a mess.
Posted by lloydletta at 8:05 PM
Thursday, March 20, 2003
Jason Sittko's post calls out CCHT CPO (Chief Pimp Officer) Alan Arthur and his spinmeisters
And Jason Sittko responds..................
[Mpls] RE: Mr. Arthur's CCHT response
Jason Sittko firstname.lastname@example.org
Thu Mar 20 14:25:01 2003
One can see the reasons why I needed help. Mr Arthur's staff generated response appears to come straight from it's literature; save the Harrison comments which I'm sure CCHT wants to edit in soon.
Mr. Arthur's 14 year's of experience is in geographically containing poverty under the guise of being the only economically feasible option. Low income wage earners are forced to travel numerous miles because these projects are not pursued in neighborhoods that the likes of Mr. Arthur inhabit: Orono, Wayzata, Woodbury et. al. Accordingly, neighborhoods such as mine that are already among the poorest are forced to remain that way for the profit of others.
Mr. Arthur paints a picture of a solid cohesive working relationship that his CCHT initiates with the neighborhoods he enters. Yet, all the responses I have received from my query are negative except for one...his own. My own year-long experience is negative so far as well.
The project at Penn and Glenwood will add 60 units into an a space that they will not be able to work with due to historic limitations. CCHT did not even bother to research this when they spent over a million on the project because...why bother when you're connected enough to deal with it later. Well it did not work this time and now the density is going to be pushed hard. It has to be because now the project is constrained and to make it financially feasible they have to push the density even more. Moreover, it will be pushed on the low income side so the project looks palatable to the free money trough that CCHT soon hopes to belly up to.
The effect? The Harrison neighborhood will see it's average home ownership rate decline when it is already approximately only 35% and we are already among the top 10 poorest neighborhoods. CCHT can jam 150 tenants in the building and walk away with a nice talking piece for future pamphlets..they created low income housing, they refurbished an old building etc etc. The problem is that they will not be the ones who have to live day to day with such low income density.
Also, to be certain, this is not a latent misguided fear of low income citizens. This is a neighborhood fed up with being the social engineering playground for every mayor, think-tank or non-profit organization that wants to feather its cap by claiming to help the poor only to pen in the poverty.
We simply don't want their brand of development in our neighborhood. They say tough..you're going to get it. It's a simple story that's been told before. We're getting the shaft because CCHT feels it can give it to us. Like I've said before, there are some supporters in the Harrison leadership that are for the project. Interestingly, some of these people have ties to CCHT or don't even live near the project.
Posted by lloydletta at 4:28 PM
CCHT Poverty Pimps in the Nooz on Minneapolis Issues
The Harrison neighborhood is likely going to get a mixed use (high mix of low income) in the old Queen Care site (Penn & Glenwood) jammed down its throat by CCHT. This 60 unit development is going to be creating some density issues because they can't move buildings due to historic limitations that they themselves did not research before they bought the property.
Overwhelmingly, the neighborhood reception has been negative over the last year.
There are supporters but those who have been there cannot not deny the negative reception so far. Nonetheless, CCHT has been, for all intents and purposes, a big bully. Harrison is a top 10 poverty neighborhood already. CCHT and apparently the powers-that-be want to keep it that way. Caring neighbors, however, do not.
I am trying to start a campaign to better combat CCHT's resources that give them the ability to gloss over neighborhood concerns.
Does anyone have experiences, anecdotes and/or preferably facts that can help me?
The final neighborhood meeting is 4/1 and the board votes 4/14.
Posted by lloydletta at 4:19 PM
Wednesday, March 19, 2003
To Bleat or Not to Bleat..... That is the Question
From: "Allyson Smith"
Subject: RE: Bleating from the Culture and Family Institute
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 08:05:08 +0000
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Thanks for forwarding my story to others. It's important that as many people as possible learn of the horrible tragedy that befell Mary Stachowicz. As a devout Catholic, she took seriously her obligation to show concern for the good of other people's souls and to give spiritual counsel when it was needed -- and it's now very obvious that Nicholas Gutierrez needed it. Mary reached out in love, but Nicholas responded with hate -- and many homosexuals cheered.
I disagree with your characterization of this story as "bleating," however. We at the Culture and Family Institute call it "exposing the truth." In this case, the truth we exposed is that many homosexuals are happy about Mary's death because they hate Christians. They are the ones filled with hatred, not Mary.
Again, thanks for helping to spread the word.
'Gay' Reaction to Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder: Silence to Applause 12/4/2002
By Allyson Smith
"I really don't feel sorry for her. She paid a very steep price for being an arrogant religious fascist. Too bad for her." "Iris," in a posting on the ACLU Online Forum. "Quite frankly, if anyone in this case was being ‘persecuted’ it was Mr. Gutierrez. Unfortunately for the victim this was a lesson that she learned too hard and too late. Maybe this will give pause to other people who similarly try to ‘help’ homosexuals." — "Silence Dogood," on ACLU Online Forum.
In the three weeks since Mary Stachowicz was murdered by homosexual Nicholas Gutierrez in Chicago, some pro-homosexualists have reacted with much more sympathy for the ‘gay’ killer than for his Christian victim. In fact, several even have gone as far as saying that Mrs. Stachowicz deserved to die for questioning the man’s lifestyle.
Predictably, the mainstream media and homosexual advocacy organizations have reacted to Mary Stachowicz’s murder the same way they did to 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising’s torture-murder at the hands of two homosexual men in 1999: by avoiding it. As of December 4, no formal condemnations of Mrs. Stachowicz’s murder have been issued by leading groups such as the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, or the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. Soulforce, a group that works in churches to oppose the traditional Christian view of homosexuality, issued no press statement, but a spokeswoman did give a quote to The Washington Times: "We condemn this murder, like we do all murders," said Laura Montgomery Rutt, spokeswoman for Soulforce. "A hate crime needs to have an intent to intimidate a whole class of people. If in this case, it was directed at this person and intended to intimidate Christians, that would be a hate crime in my mind."
A devout Catholic, Mary Stachowicz met her martyrdom while working at the Sikorski Funeral Home on Chicago’s northwest side, where she got to know Gutierrez, 19, who lived in a second-floor apartment above the funeral home. On the afternoon of November 13, Stachowicz attended Mass at St. Hyacinth parish across the street, then returned to the funeral home and went to visit Gutierrez in his apartment. According to Chicago police, an argument broke out when Mrs. Stachowicz lectured Gutierrez about his lifestyle and his lack of direction in life. Gutierrez later told police that he had issues with his mother and that the way Stachowicz was talking to him gave him flashbacks of his mother that angered him. When Stachowicz asked him, "Why do you [have sex with] boys instead of girls?" Gutierrez snapped. In a fit of rage, he punched, kicked, stabbed and strangled the 51-year-old wife and mother of four. Gutierrez then stuffed her body into a crawl space under the floor of his apartment, where it remained for two days until he confessed to police.
Family members were baffled by Stachowicz’s disappearance. They posted fliers in neighborhoods, and her daughter made a public plea for her safe return. "My sister is very healthy. She's very stable. She has the closest family you can imagine," Stachowicz’s younger sister, Alice Kosinski, told
NBC5.com. "Her faith would not allow for anything out of the ordinary." After learning of Gutierrez’s confession, Stachowicz’s loved ones agreed that the circumstances of her murder were in keeping with her character. Kosinski told The Chicago Tribune, "Because she's so Catholic, there's no
room for being gay in the Catholic Church."
Friend Mary Coleman said, "Those of us who knew her immediately hear her soft voice saying something like, 'God wouldn't approve of the way you're living your life.’ That's how Mary did things." Rev. Francis Rog of St. Hyacinth Church told ABC 7 Chicago news, "She was a very intense person, concerned about the good of the parish, always seeking things for the poor as well as spiritual welfare for people." Police recovered Stachowicz’s body on November 15 and charged Gutierrez two days later with first-degree murder, concealing a homicidal death, and burglary for attempting to steal money from Stachowicz’s purse. Chicago local media reported these events, choosing headlines devoid of the words "gay" or "homosexual." In contrast, several homosexual publications including Gay.com/PlanetOut.com, Gay People’s Chronicle, and the Washington Blade -- did use "gay" in their headlines. Gay.com began running the story on November 19, a full week before the first mainstream news story appeared in The Washington Times.
The same day, National Review Online columnist Rod Dreher published a commentary titled These Victims Are People, Too" wherein he lamented "the deafening media silence around the savage murder of Mary Stachowicz" and speculated on its cause: "One cannot help wondering if the upright citizens who report the news don't privately share the view of gay blogger James Wagner, who said of Stachowicz’s strangling: The woman who did such great evil is dead, but unfortunately the evil and the church and the society which creates it is not, and it will continue to destroy Nicholas Gutierrez and many others. I shake, safely sitting here at home, fully understanding, and fully familiar with, the horrible impact her words must have had for a man already so terribly damaged by his society, and his own mother. Dreher added, "I believe many, and probably most, journalists share the unspoken assumption that Christians bring such trouble on themselves." That assumption appears to be shared by pro-homosexual cyber citizens. A search for "Mary Stachowicz" on message boards, e-mail lists, and Web logs (blogs) turned up several people who reacted viciously toward Stachowicz and Christianity. For example, James Wagner’s boyfriend, Barry, expressed the hope on his blog that "maybe [Stachowicz’s murder] will strike fear in the hearts of a few fundamentalists" and then asked, "Where do I send a check for his (Gutierrez’s) defense fund?" James and Barry’s statements drew the following response from fellow homosexual Michael Benedetto: "I think that if gays are going to continue to have any credibility in politics, our sympathies in cases like this are going to have to lie first and foremost with the victims. And that's one upsetting thing about Barry's and James' posts: Until the criticism started to roll in, the only sympathy they expressed was for the wrong person." Elsewhere, Benedetto wrote, "[Y]es, the woman (Stachowicz) was clearly a meddlesome b---- who didn't understand that the lives of her co-workers were none of her business. That does not make her any less the victim, or absolve her killer of any of his guilt."
"I don’t condone this murder, BUT …."
Several posts implied that Stachowicz had brought on her own death. One man wrote to a Yahoo discussion forum, "It's Sad Someone Was Murdered, BUT... ...I do wish the Religious Wrong would learn to mind their own business." "Iris" wrote to the ACLU Online Forum: "I am in no way condoning this man's behavior. Murder is murder. He should receive life or the death penalty for his actions. But one fact remains ... if she would have been minding her own [expletive] business instead of attempting to ram her religion where it didn't belong, none of this would have ever happened. I really don't feel sorry for her. She paid a very steep price for being an arrogant religious fascist. Too bad for her." "Silence Dogood" agreed: "I won't go so far as to say that she deserved what she got, no one deserves to die, but I won't exactly be shedding any tears for her. Quite frankly, if anyone in this case was being 'persecuted' it was Mr. Gutierrez. Unfortunately for the victim this was a lesson that she learned too hard and too late. Maybe this will give pause to other people who similarly try to ‘help’ homosexuals."
"Real" hate crimes
Other discussions centered on the characteristics of hate crimes. "Real" hate crimes, explained ACLU Online Forum member "morningstar," must be like Matthew Shepard’s murder; they must be premeditated and target a group. "KingFred" wrote to the MacAddict Forum: "Since (Gutierrez has) already admitted he did the crime, there's no question he should do the time. But ‘hate crime’? Don't see it here. He didn't go out to get himself a Christian. He did in a person who may have been berating him, using her Christian beliefs as ‘weapons'. That doesn't justify what he did by any means, but it may explain it."
Catholic League President William Donohue summed up the problems with hate crimes statutes as illustrated by Mary Stachowicz’s murder in a November 26 press release:
"A few thoughts on this matter: a) this (Mary’s murder) will not be listed as a hate crime, thus showing how useless this category of crime is; b) the killer is going to be charged with a capital offense, thus showing once again how useless this category of crime is; c) Mary Stachowicz will never be remembered the way Matthew Shepard is, thus showing how politically corrupt the whole concept of hate crime legislation really is. The fact is she was murdered for having a Catholic-informed conscience."
Others blamed the Roman Catholic Church for Stachowicz’s murder. On the Naked Writing blog, "JodyW" commented, "Gutierrez is responsible for what he did. So the RCC [Roman Catholic Church] is responsible for continuing to put forth a silly, stupid and factually wrong doctrine of ‘objective disorders’ and ‘intrinsic moral evil’ regarding homosexuality. For all that that evil that that doctrine has done and continues to do, they have a lot to be held accountable for."
Perhaps the cruelest comment of all was this from a San Francisco man on Yahoo: "The b---- had it coming to her. I'm glad he killed her. Too bad he'll probably spend the rest of his life in prison getting his little butt pounded, but still, I'm glad he killed her. The b---- deserved to die."
Mary Stachowicz, R.I.P.
The Chicago Tribune published the following obituary for Mary: Mary Stachowicz, nee Frank, devoted wife of Jerry; beloved mother of Peter, Christopher, Angela (Louie) Ruffolo and Daniel; loving daughter of Agnes and the late Rudolf Frank; dear sister of Irene (John) Rog and Alice (Mark) Kosinski. Funeral Tuesday, 9:30 a.m., from Cumberland Chapels, 8300 W. Lawrence Ave., Norridge, to St. Hyacinth Church, Mass 11 a.m. Interment St. Adalbert Cemetery.
Four pages of condolences accompanied the obituary, where former classmates, co-workers and other family friends left messages of sympathy for Mary’s tragic demise.
The Chicago Sun-Times reported that, after Mary’s death, Alderwoman Vilma Colom (35th) introduced a city council resolution in her memory. "She lost her life in an unselfish attempt to help a very disturbed young man, and for that she should be remembered," said Colom, who goes to the same church Stachowicz did.
Mary’s sister, Alice Kosinski, told the Chicago Tribune that her sister's death is difficult for everyone in her family to fathom. "We're not doing that well," she said. "It just doesn't make any sense, and somehow we're going to have to make our peace with it."
Posted by lloydletta at 4:56 PM
Is Peter McLaughlin promoting government subsidy of Wells Fargo Loans?
Tom Welling wrote:
Does anyone else question the nature of Peter McLaughlin's support for this mortgage insurance proposal? I look at it this way: it's yet another subsidy for Wells Fargo Mortgage! There are many private and federal programs for mortgage insurance. It is odd that just as the I-35 W Access Project is making dozens of properties ineligible for FHA financing (proximity to freeways, noise levels, etc), McLaughlin comes out with a program that makes them eligible for Wells Fargo financing, on the taxpayers' dime.
From: [mailto: Peter.McLaughlin@co.hennepin.mn.us]
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16: 17:06 -0600
Subject: [Mpls] NRP Housing Issue
I have been involved in the production of low-income housing for over 25 years. As much as anyone, I understand the need for low-income housing and share the passion for production of new units. The recent proposal before the NRP Policy Board to create a mortgage insurance program caused quite a furor. Concerns centered on two issues: is this a wise use of scarce low-income housing resources; and was the process by which this proposal was considered legitimate. Let me try to put this proposal in context and address some of the issues and questions.
The concept of creating affordable home ownership opportunities is, in my mind, a complement to the production of new affordable rental units. Among the potential benefits of a home ownership component are: it is often less expensive per unit/family than rental property; it has the potential to help stabilize neighborhoods with low ownership rates; it often opens up affordable rental units as families move into home ownership; it offers families a way to break out of poverty by owning real estate that appreciates over time; it may elicit significant private sector involvement; and because it is a revolving fund, the initial investment is self-perpetuating.
The actual benefits of a program depend upon the details. During the Policy Board discussion, I made several specific requests regarding the program design, including solicitation of bank participation to eliminate the need for NRP or MCDA to administer the program; estimated costs per unit; steps required to create a revolving fund to allow these funds to be reused for mortgages for other low income people once the need for mortgage insurance is gone for the initial participants.
I viewed this as a preliminary vote of approval by the Policy Board. The resolution specifies that the funds will only be distributed after approval of guidelines for the program. Thus, the understanding, based on the debate, was that those guidelines would come back and would include targeting of the funds by both income and neighborhood. Again, based on the discussion, it is my expectation that the funds would be tightly targeted to low-income people and neighborhoods with low rates of home ownership.
The second question relates to the process by which this decision was reached. This was an action of the Policy Board, the very same Policy Board that originally set aside the $4 million and established the basis for its use. Proposing changes in the intended use of those funds is clearly within the province of the Policy Board. The City must approve or modify any such change, a rare occurrence in the history of NRP, but that authority resides with the Council and the Mayor. The fact that Neighborhood Reps offered the amendment seems very much in keeping with the role of neighborhoods in the NRP process and is precisely why it is so important to have Neighborhood Reps on the Board.
The mortgage insurance proposal was meant to change the programmatic use of a portion of the housing funds, clearly the province of the Board. As discussed at the meeting, it used a portion of the money set aside on an alternative approach to dealing with the housing needs of low-income individuals and families. Because of this difference, it didn't fit within the existing process and criteria of the fund. Thus, the Board exercised its authority to change the strategy for use of some of the funds. This isn't a violation of any process; it was the Board (and the Neighborhood Reps) exercising their rightful authority.
Finally, if the guidelines mandated in the February resolution are not satisfactory, the decision can be reversed. If less than $2 million is needed, the sum can be reduced. The resolution was a way to focus people's attention on an alternative way of addressing the housing needs of low-income people in Minneapolis and potentially strengthening neighborhoods with low rates of home ownership. The proposal obviously did not contain sufficient details to implement immediately. The resolution provided for that by calling for guidelines to come back to the Policy Board.
I've been active in affordable housing for over 25 years. Low-income ownership, with the enhanced control and stability it provides, has been a goal since my days at PRG helping produce limited equity coops. I voted for this proposal because it offered the hope, through a modest investment, of providing another means of addressing the housing needs of low-income people in Minneapolis. It is surely worth a serious look. That's what the resolution did. And the Neighborhood Reps are to be applauded for taking their responsibilities seriously.
NRP Policy Board Member
Posted by lloydletta at 3:18 PM
The List Queen Responds.....................
I hope list members can appreciate all the fake posts we've received from the raucouscaucus "friends." It takes me time to chase down the fakes; time I'd rather spend on my family, my job, my community.
The tactic seems to be to subscribe to the list, immediately post from a fake address, and then disappear. (I've repeatedly emailed back asking them
to call or email me to confirm identity, but have never heard anything back.) I'm sorry, since this was "Val's" pattern, I didn't give "her" the benefit of the doubt after three previous fake posters.
It's just getting old. I hope most members can appreciate my fatigue dealing with what is obviously a calculated annoyance.
As most REAL listmembers may remember, raucouscaucus discussion is not banned here. Several verifiable humans, including Dave Piehl, Vicky Heller
and Lisa McDonald, others have posted on the topic.
Posts concerning raucouscaucus do have to conform to our long-standing rules against inflammatory or insulting dialogue. I know raucouscaucus commentary has a different ethos, but I think its fair that their "friends" respect ours.
Posted by lloydletta at 1:47 PM
Off with her head says the Queen!
Curiouser and Curioser, seems like mentioning the Raucous Caucous website gets people booted from the Minneapolis Issues list. From a posting by John Trammel on today's Minneapolis Issues.
My friend Val just told me that she was apparently kicked off of Minneapolis Issues without any warning. It looks like anyone who mentions RaucousCaucus.com will violate the list moderator's version of Homeland Security.
Considering all the satirical barbs from the Raucous Caucus that have been directed toward our mayor and his invisible suit, maybe the real
security issue here is his political career. If one of the main purposes of the Minneapolis Issues list was to put an "internet consultant" into office, then we can't tolerate advertisement for a web site that features things like a "Morph the Moron" contest
I've enclosed Val's message.
A letter to the editors of Raucous Caucus may shed some light on the concerns expressed by "Scott Persons"....
December 27th, 2002
To the Editor,
What a bunch of chickens you are! Why don't you come out from behind your pseudonyms and fight like men? Back in the USSR, we knew what to
do with people like you!
Dear Mr. Kropotsky,
We agree that people who use pseudonyms are a bunch of chickens ..Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin for example, not to mention Mark Twain, Georges Sand and Snoop Doggy Dog.
I can assure you that all of us in the Raucous Caucus use our real names. When Polly and I were lying on the beach on the Cote d'Azur
last year, we were amazed to discover we were surrounded by people with the same initials as us. Quel coincidence! What was even more
amazing was the fact that we all lived only a few blocks from each other in Kenwood. Naturally, we agreed to collaborate on a website as
soon as we all returned to Minneapolis.
Petronius Peplum III
--- Scott Persons
Posted by lloydletta at 12:31 PM
Monday, March 17, 2003
More Comments on the Fear and Loathing at Brauerland
From: Chris Johnson
To: Mpls Forum
Subject: [Mpls] Villification and lying with numbers
X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:52:42 -0600
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:52:42 -0600
Two things about recent Minneapolis discussions disturb me: a tremendous amount of villification or demonization of anyone who disagrees with the writer's opinion, and the misuse, abuse and outright lying with statistics and numbers. Both of these tactics generate roadblocks to getting any problem solved and generating any kind of cooperation. Unless we're all survivlalist, anarchist hermits, we better learn to work together.
Posted by lloydletta at 2:49 PM
Fear and Loathing at BruaerLand (aka Minneapolis Issues list)
Regarding my opposition to the Access Project
Scott Persons (the guy who accuses STRIDE of character assassination) wrote:
You only make these charges because it affects your tiny little silo, your house on the Healy Block (which I'm guessing was subsidized by NRP in some way)
David Piehl writes:
Perhaps in the spirit of the Access Project PAC, Scott appears to be attempting to marginalize me and my warnings about the Access Project by stating something he doesn't know, then compounding that with an "accusation" of using NRP funds (i.e. I couldn't possibly have done it by myself?).
I oppose the Access Project for all the reasons I have repeatedly stated; that has little if anything to do with where my house is located, with the exception that my proximity to the freeway causes me to think about the issue more than the average resident.
For your information, the historic Healy homes (14 national register properties) will survive with or without the Excess Project due to several contingency plans that have been developed, no thanks to those who are so willing to make one-sided "compromises" in their lust for so-called amenities.
What in the world does NRP funding have to do with the Excess Project debate? For your information: though NRP has helped some great projects in the city, I did not receive any NRP funding. Did you?
To date, the PAC has spent well over $2 million of taxpayer dollars to come up with their plan.
Scott Persons wrote:
Now if the anonymous creators of raucous caucus would have the courage to put their names on their material I'm sure we would find more than a little cross pollination with STRIDE.
I'd also love to hear if STRIDE really has the numbers it claims
David Piehl writes:
Suddenly STRIDE is responsible for Raucous Caucus? (www.raucouscaucus.com) Give me a break! Perhaps STRIDE is also responsible for the budget cuts!
Regarding numbers, it depends on how you define "member". There is a core group of "founding" members, there are folks who attend the meetings, and there are folks who have signed up to be on STRIDE's mailing list (which you can do on the website, www.stride-mn.org). I think the number of people who have signed up to be on the mailing list is around 500, give or take a few; that's significantly more than are on the mailing list of the PAC, isn't it?
Posted by lloydletta at 1:28 PM
White House Press Whores
This was posted on a media website by a washington post reporter.............
3/13/2003 2:41:44 PM
From JONATHAN WEISMAN, Economics Writer, Washington Post:
In the wake of Seymour Hersh's open statements about the way the White House treats the press, I feel compelled to relate a personal story that illustrates how both the White House and the press have allowed manipulation of the printed word in Washington to get out of hand. This is a bit of a confession as well as an appeal to the White House and my fellow reporters to rethink the way journalism is practiced these days.
Recently, I was working on a profile of the now-departed chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, R. Glenn Hubbard. I dutifully
went through the White House press office to talk to an administration economist about Hubbard's tenure, and a press office aide helpfully got me in touch with just the person I wanted. The catch was this: The interview would be off the record. Any quotes I wanted to put into the newspaper would have to be e-mailed to the press office. If approved, the quotation could be attributed to a White House official. (This has become fairly standard practice.)
Since the profile focused on Hubbard's efforts to translate relatively arcane macroeconomic theory into public policy, the quote I wanted referenced the president's effort to end the double taxation of dividends: "This is probably the most academic proposal ever to come out of an administration." The press office said it was fine, but the official wanted a little change. Instead, the quote was to read, "This is probably the purest, most far reaching economic proposal ever to come out of an administration." I protested that the point of the quote was the word "academic," so the quote was again amended to state, "This is probably the purest, most academic, most far reaching economic proposal ever to come out of an administration."
What appeared in the Washington Post was, "This is probably the purest, most academic ... economic proposal ever to come out of an administration." What followed was an angry denunciation by the White House press official, telling me I had broken my word and violated journalistic ethics.
I had, of course, violated journalistic ethics, by placing into quotation marks a phrase that was never uttered by the source, ellipses or no ellipses. I had also played ball with the White House using rules that neither I nor any other reporter should be assenting to. I think it is time for all of us to reconsider the way we cover the White House. If administration officials want to speak off the record, they are off the record. If they are on background as an administration official, I suppose that's the best we can expect. But the notion that reporters are routinely submitting quotations for approval, and allowing those quotes to be manipulated to get that approval, strikes me as a step beyond business as usual.
EY: That isn't reporting, it's serving as an engine of propoganda. That Hiddeous Strength by CS Lewis is very prescient.....
Posted by lloydletta at 1:12 PM
Military doesn't want to go green
Pentagon pushing for exemption from environmental laws
By CHARLES POPE March 13, 2003
WASHINGTON -- In a contest of two powerful priorities, a pair of congressional
committees today will consider whether the military should be allowed to damage
the environment in the name of national security.
EY: Bad idea. However the military with its anti-gay Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy ends up trumping University policies about non-discrimination with the ROTC programs. The military never wants to abide by the same laws the rest of the citizens do. I'd like to see some Senator amend ENDA from the floor to not exempt the military.
Posted by lloydletta at 12:21 PM
Sunday, March 16, 2003
Dennis Sanders weighs in on the Lindner controversy
Guttless Democrats, Dumb-Ass Republicans: Here in Minnesota, the latest flap is about state representative Arlon Lindner. By some accident of democracy, this idiot was elected to represent a far flung corner of the Twin Cities metro area. This Republican denounced the visit of Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dali Lama, and more recently has introduced a bill that would remove GLBT protections from the state's human rights amendment.
Check out the Moderate Republican blog for more at:
Posted by lloydletta at 11:10 PM
Frist to address the Leviticus Crowd
Sen. Frist to Address FRC Briefing
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee has graciously accepted our invitation to speak to FRC's annual
Washington Briefing. Sen. Frist will address the Briefing luncheon tomorrow. This year's Briefing marks the 20th anniversary of FRC's
founding and two decades of defending family, faith and freedom. We are truly delighted that Sen. Frist could take time out of his busy
Senate schedule to address our gathering. His leadership on family, marriage and sanctity of life issues continues to impress and we look forward to his remarks.
EY: I hope Norm Coleman stays away from this advocacy group for the Leviticus Crowd. They are embarrassing the the Republican Party Nationally just as Arlon Lindner is an embarrassment to the Republican Party locally.
Ofcourse, I still am not clear on whether this bill that bars "infanticide" really prevents infanticide, since I'm not clear that it exempts procedures performed when the fetus is brain dead. The only person I know who has undergone such a procedure had the procedure to prevent severe health complications, and the fetus was dead before this procedure was performed.
Regarding this part of the daily FRC bleating: One bright spot in the Census report, however, found that same-sex couples accounted for just one percent of households, discrediting the claim that such relationships are commonplace.
EY: And they think the majority of gays are reporting their relationships on the census?
I'm still curious why the FRC and the Minnesota Family Council are doing nothing about the expansion of the Gambling lifestyle -
especially state promoted gambling. The predicessor of the MFC, the Berean League had a group called Citizens Against the Lottery (or some such thing), but they seem totally awol on that issue now. Do some of their major donors have interests in the "Racino" project? Inquiring minds wish to know.
Posted by lloydletta at 10:58 PM
Wiring the Gay World.
Wiring the Gay World
Story location: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,14229,00.html
04:00 AM Aug. 05, 1998 PT
The Internet has changed the way gay people grow up, come out, organize political actions, and fall in love. For the last four years, a pioneering journalist named Rex Wockner has used the Net to up the intelligence quotient of the mainstream press and to affect the way media cover gay and lesbian issues.
By aggressively marketing his international news feed to Web sites like PlanetOut and to regional newspapers all over the world, Wockner has also widened the scope of gay journalism. Whereas gay newspapers in the '70s focused exclusively on the epicenters of the urban subculture -- like New York, San Francisco, and Amsterdam -- Wockner's international coverage has brought the struggles of emerging sexual-freedom movements in places like Zimbabwe to the attention of an international readership.
Wockner is "a one-man gay AP," says Tom Rielly, chairman of San Francisco-based PlanetOut. Wockner provides the invaluable service of being "an intelligent news agent," Rielly says, a smart filter in an ever-burgeoning datastream. PlanetOut supplements its own original coverage of gay and lesbian issues, Newsplanet, with Wockner's reportage.
PlanetOut is one of Wockner's 91 affiliates, a network of reprint outlets that includes such far-flung publications as bar rags in the Bible Belt, the high-traffic gay erotica site Badpuppy, a Thai journal called Pink Ink, and the newsletter of the Estonian Lesbian Union.
Posted by lloydletta at 11:28 AM
Reviews of the Savage TV Show
I caught some of his second show yesterday, but I am real sorry to hear I missed the lesbian cop bit! His muzzle was in plain sight, yep. Looks like he's headed back to radio soon, where he should have stayed. His show sucks without the overt supremacist heart that attracted his hordes of Rusty's "dumb as chia pets" LOLOLOLOL
----- Original Message -----
From: Rusty Morris
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [us_queers] Savage vs Gays
I find to be what much of the mainstream foudn him to be...completely boring, obviously the idiot MSNBC has him muzzled, and without his extremist mouth he really is boring, they canned donahue for this?
And OMG those callers, talk about morons, if that is his audience i feel for america...well i already feel for america, the mainstream are about a dumb as chia pets, but still the man bored me to tears...msnbc will certianly not get what they thought they would get..lol
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [us_queers] Savage vs Gays
Tonight he did some shtick with an allegedly Lesbian [butch] cop to deflect the GLBTQ protest. He is just another annoying cable-fascist voice - tonight he insisted on replaying the Twin Towers collapse as backdrop to reinforce his back-the-attack-on-Iraq rant. Really dumb stuff.
EY: Yeah, he said he was going to do that on his radio show. Yours truly wrote Savage offering to be a guest - to talk about a racist, anti-gay, and anti-republican cartoon that GLAAD did nothing about. No response.
Posted by lloydletta at 11:22 AM
Bleatings from the Culture and Family Institute - More Gay News than from Any other source
'Gay' Group Slashes Homosexual Partner Benefits for Own Employees
A leading homosexual activist group has slashed ''domestic partner''
benefits to save money.
EY: They are bearing false witness about this one. NGLTF did not get rid of dp benefits. They did reduce it from 100% employer paid to 50% employer paid.
Hatch-Leahy Bill Would Effectively Legalize Virtual Child Porn
S 151 permits the defendant to have the charge dismissed if he proves the material wasn't made by using a real child.
Houston School Agrees to Allow 'Gay-Straight Alliance'
Parents see 'silver lining' in consent requirement.
The Episcopal Church, USA, Joins Pro-Sodomy Brief
Action contradicts stance of worldwide Anglican conference.
MONEY AND MEDIA
Fighting Back: Another Cincinnati Marriott Shuts Off Obscenity
EY: But they fully support Savage -- is Savage good for children?
Pro-family campaign declares national war on hotel porn.
GLAAD Pressures Companies to Not Advertise on Savage's MSNBC Show
Procter & Gamble and General Mills say they won't advertise on the new MSNBC talk show ''Savage Nation,'' under pressure from GLAAD.
QUESTIONS AND QUOTES
Q&A: Does Christian-Based 'Homophobia' Drive Homosexuals into 'Unsafe Sex'?
You can't blame Christians for the many problems and risks linked to homosexuality.
Culture & Family Report is produced by:
Senior Editor: Robert Knight
Editor: Peter LaBarbera
Writers: Martha Kleder, Al Dobras, Allyson Smith
Allyson has written me in the past telling me these newsletters from the C&F institute are not bleatings. I really don't know what else would describe them.
Posted by lloydletta at 1:14 AM