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Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Over at His Most Footly of Learnedness

I have no problem with linking to Swiftee's Litterbox. I no longer tolerate Swiftee pooping in my comments section. When that happens, it's time to scoop out the litter. He's obviously trolling for attention. His stats are down.

The story of the Swiftee vs Gisleson catfight comes up again. Gislesen conceeds.

The most footly of learnedness writes a snarky post about this (going after Gislesen), and Gislesen and Swiftee go at it in the comments - along with the MOB parrot Mitch Berg.

Don't ya love it when one of these drooling morons bites off more than they can chew? Ah hahaha...It's always just a matter of time before the tear drops fall.

He hehehehahahahahaha!

Do you think there is a special "victims of Swiftee" table at their Thursday night babble-fests?

New comer: "Hi, I'm "da wedge"...and, and (quivering lip)..sniff...I'm a victim of Swiftee"

All: "Hi Alan"

Wedge: "He's...so...mean!" (bitter sobbing)

All: "Group hug...group hug"

Hahaha!
Swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 10:34 am | #

Note to Wege and his readers: Even *I* try not to tick Swiftee off. Doy.
MBerg | 08.14.06 - 2:40 pm | #

Yeah, but I haven't been feeling the love Mitch...where's the LOVE man??

Where's the NIGP top 11 things to love about Swiftee?

Where's the SITD "It was five years ago I met Swiftee XVII"?

Where's Swiftee's guest blogging gig at SCSU Scholars?

Where's Margaret's indepth interview with Swiftee regarding his favorite summer perennials?

Where, for the love of GOD, is "Swiftee can teach Iron Maiden a lot about crushing leftys"?
Swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 3:46 pm | #

Learned Foot, or may I call you Harry?

I was in that alley, and if you're relying on Swiftee for your account of what happened you really don't have much of a clue what happened.

Sick on my ass with the flu I drug myself out of bed down to Swiftee's bar (he refused to come to me) to discuss the way he was trashtalking everyone at New Patriot's comment threads, vilely insulting the host and his wife for having a "gay marriage." [The host is about 5'7", I think his wife is a little taller, and the bullying had been going on for a while before I baited Swiftee into a series of emails trying to get him to focus his anger issues on someone who cared. For a while the New Patriot comment threads all but shut down because no one wanted to deal with him.]

I showed up at the bar to talk first but Swiftee jumped up and made so much noise that he attracted the attention of an off-duty cop at the bar, which is why our "fight" never got past the two middle aged guys circling in an alley stage of ridiculousness.

Had Swiftee tried to land a punch, he would have kicked my ass and I acknowledged as much in a contemporaneous post. But I was willing to take an ass whooping and crawl back to my sick bed with a few lumps rather than keep reading his sick attacks on people who had not sought out a conversation with him.

If Swiftee's telling a different story, he's lying. I've kept my mouth shut about that fight since my one post (now eaten by database failure), but I'd really like to know what the cops said to Swiftee after they sized up the situation and sent me home while keeping him for some more conversation. Pair O'Dice had nothing to say for about two months and then suddenly there was an eruption of vile and obscene ranting about my weight and other alleged attributes.

And Mitch, if Swiftee ever shat in your comments the way he does in ours, you'd think differently about your Swiftee management policy. He wasn't banned for insulting me, he was banned for calling others names, and then only after he was specifically informed of that policy and the consequences of violating it. His gasbagging now is like me spitting at the cops on a picket line then, after they tell me I'm going to get my head busted if I don't stop, I kept it up then whined about it in a post later. Swiftee begged to be banned and he was.

Yeah, I went into an alley with Swiftee, but apparently only one of us left with his honor intact. Bitchslapped? Well, once Swiftee circled and got the streetlight in my eyes, yeah, he knocked my hat off and I never saw it coming. But then the cops pulled up behind us and while I waited for him to throw another punch, we got rousted by two guys young enough to be my nephews.

I stood up for what I believe in and I was willing to take a beating for it. I don't care who wins the fight, I just believe that when the time comes, you fight. And, at the time, Swiftee grudgingly acknowledged some respect for my being there, although I don't think he realized I was barely standing under my own power.

It always amazes me how the let's-go-to-war right projects all these cowardice memes onto the left. Well the left also includes farmers and factory workers (me on two counts), miners, high steel workers and a raft of other folks with balls the size of grapefruits.

So Harry, wallow in your relationship with Swiftee. It's a bed I wouldn't want to climb into. There's no field of honor where you can prove yourself with Swiftee if you disagree with him, so be sure you don't deviate from his patriotic correctness or you too may find yourself behind the Eagle Bar.
Mark Gisleson | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 3:58 pm | #

I don't think I have ever linked to Swiftee. Well if I did, it was an accident.
triple_a | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 4:34 pm | #

“ I drug myself out of bed down to Swiftee's bar (he refused to come to me)”

I don’t do house calls.

“I baited Swiftee into a series of emails trying to get him to focus his anger issues on someone who cared.”

“I showed up at the bar to talk first but Swiftee jumped up and made so much noise that he attracted the attention of an off-duty cop at the bar”

So you say you spent a week e-mailing threats and promises of an ass beating…and you showed up for a nice chat?

Hahaha..sure pal, pull up a chair!..Hahaha

“but I'd really like to know what the cops said to Swiftee after they sized up the situation and sent me home while keeping him for some more conversation.”

The bartender came out and explained that I had been sitting there; minding my own business and a drunk came in and started throwing paper and shouting. He thanked me for hustling your ass out of there and offered to buy me a beer.

"I've kept my mouth shut about that fight since my one post (now eaten by database failure), Pair O'Dice had nothing to say for about two months and then suddenly there was an eruption of vile and obscene ranting about my weight and other alleged attributes."

This “fight” was nothing I’m particularly proud of, as I’ll explain in a minute. My “vile, obscene rant” had to do with some loony crap you were writing..as usual.

"And Mitch, if Swiftee ever shat in your comments the way he does in ours, you'd think differently about your Swiftee management policy."

Mitch doesn’t manage a public toilet.

“Yeah, I went into an alley with Swiftee, but apparently only one of us left with his honor intact. Bitchslapped? Well, once Swiftee circled and got the streetlight in my eyes, yeah, he knocked my hat off and I never saw it coming.”

You sure it wasn’t the wind? LOL!

Listen Mark, can I call you Mark?

First of all, I don’t lie; and I don’t threaten anyone…ever. But I also won’t tolerate a threat from anyone, and I do mean anyone.

I don’t wish to have serious discussions with socialists, communists, progressives or any other member of the “reality based community.

I write POD to put a spotlight on what utter lunacy passes for informed opinion in those quarters, and if given the opportunity, I’ll have a good laugh in lefty comments..so ban away.

Continued...
swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 6:20 pm | #

Gravatar As a result, I’ve received more anonymous threats than I can count; I actually had one moron call my house and threaten my wife…a mistake he won’t ever repeat I assure you.

But for all the talk of what a bastard I am, you of all people should know that I am compassionate.

Drunk, sick, old, whatever...it was immediately clear that you were no threat to anyone; the slap was a compassionate warning for you to go home.

If that wasn’t true, not only wouldn’t you not “have seen it coming”, you’d have no idea what hit you until someone explained it to you much later, ‘cause as I say, I don’t play when it comes to threats.

Showing up to bother me in person doesn’t make you honorable, neither does e-mailing written threats to kick my ass..it makes you stupid.

You are I probably two of the most vitriolic bloggers out here. But the difference is that I can take it as well as dish it out...of course it’s a bit easier when you’ve got a rational point behind the vitriol.

Take a moment to think about what I’ve said here and you may come away with a different perspective.
swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 6:24 pm | #

AAA, I'm sure your mom is proud of you
swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 6:29 pm | #

If that version lets you sleep at night so be it. I've certainly done my share of trolling, and it's a bad habit I'm trying to leave behind. I hope nothing I've ever written has ever left anyone feeling intimidated or like they need to fumigate their comments.

If you didn't like my emails or comments at New Patriot, it's probably because I was speaking to you the way you were speaking to them: rudely.

Mocking someone's marriage because they did a civil commitment (it was a guy and a woman in case anyone is wondering) crossed the line and that's when I started in.

But I guess I should give YOU credit. No one else from the right wing blogs ever leaves comments now that I finally got them working last winter, so I guess they don't take me any more seriously than most lefty blogs take you. Except that some lefty bloggers do take you seriously, and some — much younger, smaller bloggers — are literally afraid of you. And that's why everytime you try to push others around in liberal comment threads, I'm going to stand up to you.

So far as I know I'm the only Democratic blogger you've gone after who's actually bigger than you. So yeah, regardless of how old I'm getting, I'll go back to that alley even if it means ending up in an ICU. I don't back down anymore than you do, and beating me to a bloody pulp won't change my attitude anymore than it's ever changed yours. You can bury me, but you can't change my mind about politics anymore than I can change yours.

Swiftee, you're not going to talk your way out of the fact that you're a troll and that you go into other people's blogs with the intention of picking fights. Trash talk me or others all you like, but it still amounts to the same thing: you're trying to bully people, not educate them or even argue with them.

You've got — according to your posts — a loving wife, a good job and income, and life seems to be going well for you. So what's up with this inability to tolerate liberals? Do you have to insult others in a piece of cyberspace they, not you, are paying for? Say whatever you like at Pair O'Dice and, if you agree not to attack anyone below the rank of state legislator and keep the vitriol directed at me and not my readers (or MNO), I'll unban you.

Oh, and Andy, whether you link to Swiftee's posts or not, you've still got him in your blogroll so I'm not sure what your point was, but kudos for having some balls and commenting.
Mark Gisleson | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 7:52 pm | #

Sweet Jesus.

Mark, Mark, Mark..

You people have taken all meaning from the concepts of "bullying" and "hatred" and "fear" by applying them willy-nilly as your needs dictate...no one even knows what the hell you're talking about anymore.

I don't want to send you or anyone else to the ICU, I don't wish to lay a hand on anyone. I've never popped up to harass anyone personally..I don't send people threatening e-mail.

I'm sincerely dissapointed that you did not mark compassion, and yes, a wee tad of respect, during our alley meeting, 'cause it was present.

I don't want lefty's to fear me personally...who the hell cares about me personally?

I want lefty's to fear the consequences of the chaos they've wrought on society.

You're right..I don't want to educate you, I'm thouroughly convinced that most of you people are beyond reaching. And I don't beat around the bush when it comes to the crap that the left is trying so mightily to strap on America.

Tell ya what.

If you want a perfect example of why I don't tolerate liberals I invite you to read POD tomorrow.

Or else...Ahhahahahahaa!
swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 10:55 pm | #

Gravatar Oh yeah...AAA; better check with mom first..Haha!
swiftee | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 10:56 pm | #

""And Mitch, if Swiftee ever shat in your comments the way he does in ours, you'd think differently about your Swiftee management policy.""

"Mitch doesn’t manage a public toilet."

And, oddly, not only has Swiftee never shat in my comments section - neither have very many people at all. A couple of Evateers, some "Jesus General" droogs, that's about it.

Wonder why that is?

Swiftee and Wege are equally welcome, because I've never had a problem with either.

Foot, on the other hand...
mitch | 08.15.06 - 5:50 am | #

"Yeah, but I haven't been feeling the love Mitch...where's the LOVE man??"

You're posting again!
mitch | 08.15.06 - 5:53 am | #


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