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Saturday, July 29, 2006

Gay Patriot on the Washington State Decision in a Gay Marriage Case

Dan Blatt has some good analysis here.

Interesting comment:

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#2: “It’s the most exciting time to be gay in history.”

I wouldn’t go that far. The years just following Stonewall as well as the late 1980’s to late 1990’s were pretty exciting too.

I tend to agree with Dan’s theme that we need now to focus on legislatures rather than the courts. I don’t regret having tried the judicial route but I’m one that can see the folly of “stay the course” when it’s ceased to work. I had thought that what worked in Canada might also work here but clearly Canadians are considerably more advanced with respect to equal treatment for gay people.

I would now push for civil marriage when possible or in-all-but-name-only civil unions in other places. If we can get several populous states like CA and NY to adopt marriage or full and complete civil unions, then we need to work on the federal level to get those marriages and unions recognized. What to do about the religionist backwater states that refuse to recognize SSM? Well, at some point - perhaps after Scalia croaks - the SCOTUS might be amenable to forcing SSM recognition everywhere but that would have to be only after enthusiasm for the FMA has completely waned. Meanwhile I would use the power of economics in encouraging new factories and businesses especially those from more enlightened countries overseas to avoid the bigoted locations and set up shop in the more gay-friendly areas. Ultimately, money talks and if there is a financial penalty in being bigoted, then the bigots will have to decide if it’s worth it.

Comment by Ian — July 28, 2006 @ 1:18 am - July 28, 2006

Friday, July 28, 2006

On Vacation and Away from Email and Cell Phone for a Couple Weeks

Ken Avidor and Mark Hanson will post here. There are many good blogs to check out while I'm gone.

I'm going to the Muskrat's territory. It should be fun.

Dale Carpenter on Washington State Decision on Gay Marriage

At the Volahk Conspiracy here.

Becky Lourey on Taxpayer League Live

Taxpayers League Live! with David Strom.
Tune in this Saturday to 100.3 FM KTLK from noon – 2 pm when David will be joined by Becky Lourey and Tom Hamburger. Lourey, a State Senator from Kerrick, will talk about her primary challenge to endorsed candidate Mike Hatch for the DFLs gubernatorial slot on the ballot in November.


Becky Lourey is the only democrat who opposes the Stadium tax. As you may recall, Governor Tim Pawlenty of Tax Increases signed the bill. Mike Hatch said he'd have signed the bill if he was in office.

Good for Tim Walz

From the Drama Queen's website.

Friday, July 28, 2006
MN GOP: INDEPENDENT LEADER TIM WALZ SUPPORTS GAY MARRIAGE
"With his support of gay marriage, the myth of the moderate Tim Walz is destroyed. Walz may talk a lot about being an 'independent leader' but the true hard-left nature of his candidacy is bound to kill his chances with the common sense residents of the First Congressional District." - Ron Carey, Chairman of the Republican Party of Minnesota

"Independent Leader" Tim Walz Doesn't "See A Reason To Deny" Gay Marriage. "And the best thing that ever happened to me was to get married and I don't see a reason to deny that to anyone. So I'm pretty consistent on that, of where government should not be in our lives." (Tim Walz Interview on "Lambert and Janacek," KTLK-FM, July 27, 2006)

posted by Michael B. Brodkorb at 2:45 pm


I'd challenge party chair Ron Carey to give his good reasons to deny gays the ability to have civil recognition of their marriages. Is it because gays getting married legally will cause earthquakes? Locust invasions? Hurricanes?

Will Ron Carey advise Gil Gutnecht to use this ad (substituting Gutnecht's name for Vernon Robinson's) in his campaign?

Anonymous State Democrats Whine about Colleen Rowley to Roll Call

Hat Tip Winger:

National and Minnesota Democrats seem about ready to walk away from Coleen Rowley's ill-fated campaign to unseat Rep. John Kline (R-Minn.) — just as her campaign manager recently did.

Many in the party had hoped that Rowley's national fame — Time magazine named her Person of the Year in 2002 for being a whistle-blower at the FBI — would make her an exciting, appealing candidate in an otherwise Republican-leaning district. But now some state Democrats say Rowley's first run for political office is going so badly that they're turning their sights on damage control.

"She's running the single worst campaign that could be run," said one state Democratic insider. "I'm worried that if she's running a weak race in the 2nd it's going to hurt the statewide candidates. What's going to get people to turn out and vote Democratic?"
(Source: Roll Call, July 26, 2006)


I went to Drinking Liberally when Colleen Rowley was the guest. Colleen Rowley impressed the Drinking Liberally crowd more than any of the other Democratic candidates. That was possibly because she doesn't allow people to script her.

Democrats also use the Drama Queen to dump opposition research on each other. Elwyn Tinklenberg did that with Scotty Mortensen - who was running an unconventional shoe string operation for the 6th District. He dropped out because he could not raise the money needed to run a serious campaign against Elwyn Tinklenberg the PAC Man. Later on Patty Wetterling got into the race and defeated the PAC man at the DFL convention.

Is Mike Hatch Using His Office to Campaign?

There is a good question raised in a press release from Independence Party, posted at Polinaut.

Another Question for Hatch What's up with Letterhead?

It remains well known in political circles that incumbent office holders have an immense advantage over challengers when it comes to holding their job while campaigning. This perk becomes even more glaring when incumbents are challenged by a candidate from the private sector. Quite simply, a private sector employer would require a detailed accounting of time dedicated to a political campaign and would not allow corporate assets and staff to be diverted toward campaign activities.

In light of Mike Hatch's recent complaint about the Star Tribune filed with the Minnesota News Council, one question becomes conspicuously apparent:
How much can a candidate rely on his public office to support his political campaign efforts?

In his letter to the Minnesota News Council, Mr. Hatch pointed out four separate times that the questioning initiated by the Star Tribune and the basis of his complaint was related to the governor’s race. He did so with Office of the Attorney General (OAG) letterhead instead of campaign letterhead. This fact also begs further questions:

1. Did OAG staff help in preparing this complaint (despite its date of Sunday 7/23/06)?

2. Was OAG equipment (computers, printers, etc.) used in preparing this political campaign document?

3. Was the use of OAG letterhead designed to use the power of the OAG to intimidate the news media from pursuing further political questions of Mr. Hatch?

4. Is OAG spokesperson Leslie Sandberg also serving as a de facto spokesperson for the Hatch for Governor Campaign?

5. Are OAG staff members also involved in the Hatch for Governor Campaign? If so, how do they publicly account for their time away from OAG while engaging in campaign activities?

"It is time to recognize that strong line must be drawn between a candidate's campaign and the public office that the candidate currently holds" opined Jim Moore, Independence Party State Chair. Moore continued, "Minnesotans should receive the full efforts from all public servants they hire. All time away from public service for campaigning should be fully disclosed and the difference in pay should be promptly returned to the public coffers." "More importantly, the assets of the elected office held by a candidate should never be used for campaign purposes." Moore concluded.

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The same question can be raised for Governor Pawlenty. Perhaps that's the reason that the IP rather than the Republican Party, raised this issue with Mike Hatch.

Tom Scheck at the MPR blog Polinaut comments:

Hatch said he wrote the News Council complaint on a Sunday from his computer at home. He says the News Council letter was sent on attorney general letterhead is because the data practices request and Star Tribune e-mail were made to that office. Hatch said he's very careful about using office resources for campaign stuff.

The issue of using a state office for a political purposes is likely to be an issue throughout the campaign since an incumbent governor and acting attorney general are running for governor.


I'd expect the IP to continue to raise this issue. Neither the DFL nor the Republicans will raise the issue on their own since both parties are in glass houses on this one.

Bloggers on Almanac

Michael Brodkorb aka the Drama Queen and Chuck Olsen were on Almanac tonight. Brodkorb repeated the claim he made to the Pioneer Press that he blogs late at night and early in the morning. His posts today contradict that claim. I can't compete with Brodkorb on getting something out quickly because I work during the day - and I can't post something during work hours even during a break or during lunch. Other bloggers have different rules at work.

Zimmermann Trial Begins Monday

Former Councilman Dean Zimmermann's trial begins Monday, July 31st.

Here's the indictment :

Friday, January 18, 2006
 
Minneapolis  - Former Minneapolis City Council Member Gary Dean Zimmermann was indicted today by a federal grand jury on charges of accepting and soliciting money and other things of value in connection with his official capacity as a member of the City Council and its Committee on Zoning and Planning.

Gary Dean Zimmermann, age 62, from Minneapolis, was charged with three counts of accepting cash and one count of soliciting property, a retaining wall, from people with business before the City.

According to the indictment, in June 2005, Zimmermann allegedly accepted $5,000 from the developer of Chicago Commons, a condominium and retail complex in Minneapolis , who was seeking a change in the complex’s zoning. On two other occasions in August 2005, Zimmermann took $1,200 and $1,000 in cash from the same developer in exchange for assistance with any zoning issues that would arise regarding the development of a retail mall for members of the Minneapolis Somali-American community.

The grand jury also alleged that in October 2004, Zimmermann received an email from the management of the Powderhorn Residents Group requesting Zimmermann’s signature on certificates of completion and release of forfeiture for the newly constructed Franklin Station Townhomes.   Zimmermann allegedly responded by agreeing to do so but then asking the Residents Group to construct, at no charge, a retaining wall on the property of his former partner.  When the Residents Group declined, Zimmermann then asked that the materials for the wall be given to him free of charge.
    
If convicted, Zimmermann faces a maximum potential penalty of ten years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine on each count of the indictment.  Any sentence would be determined by a judge.

The case is the result of an ongoing investigation by Federal Bureau of Investigation and is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney John Docherty.


Jury selection begins Monday morning. If that goes quickly, there may be opening statements in the afternoon.

Thursday, July 27, 2006

Mark Stenglein Has Campaign Pay for His Cable Bills

His 2005 annual report shows 192.79 to Time Warner for Cable TV. Why is his campaign being charged for cable tv? He also shows a $635 expenditure to Nextel for a cell phone, $214.25 to Midwest Telephone and $191.74 to Qwest for a faxline. He also has his campaign pick up for his Star Tribune subscription ($112) and his Lions Club membership ($505.00).

And WTF is this large amount of unitemized expenses in Stenglein's amended 2005 report?

Wednesday, July 26, 2006

Video of Colbert Report Going After Ralph Reed and Marilyn Musgrave

Crooks and Liars here.

Doogie at Muskrat Hunt comments:

Ghost Suite gets some new lighting
Spotlighting in fact!!!

Gotta love that Colbert fella.

He must part Cajun he's so good at peggin' Muskrats:

Colorado Representative Marilyn Musgrave. The Christian Coalition gave her a perfect score. And now this good woman is being accused of running her campaign out of her official office, which is illegal. She explained she was just running it out of the same building in Suite 777.

Her critics point out that there is no 777 in that building.
The truth is it's just that non-believers can't see it.

# posted by Doogman @ 10:50 AM


Here's the background on the Ghost Suite. This sounds just like something Michele Bachmann would do.

Lumberjack Days Photos

Sue Jeffers contingent:

Sue Jeffers Contingent at Lumberjack Days Parade

Sue Jeffers Banner and Truck

Thanks to the Sue Jeffers campaign for these images.

IP's John Binkowski:

Lumberjack Days Parade 007.preview

Lumberjack Days Parade 016.preview

Binkowski is running for the 6th District seat against Michele Bachmann and Patty Wetterling. Photos used with permission of John Binkowski. There are more photos on his website.

Patty Wetterling's campaign has photos of her contingent at Lumberjack Days here. I've emailed her campaign for permission to use a couple of the photos here.

Michele Bachmann's campaign hasn't posted photos of her 2006 Lumberjack Days contingent. Ken Avidor took video of Michele Bachmann's presence at Lumberjack Days and posted it at Dump Bachmann.

Strib Editor's Blog on the Hatch Story

Here.

The Pioneer Press has the Hatch complaint here. The complaint includes an email Hatch got from reporters Dane Smith. Mike Kazuba was interviewing the boyfriend of one of Hatch's daughters. The complaint mentions a Doug Tice email to Hatch's office. A copy of that email wasn't included in what Hatch gave to reporters.

I wonder if Katherine Kersten was working on this story also.

Tuesday, July 25, 2006

Stillwater Lumberjack Days Parade Reprise

A commenter mentioned that Sue Jeffers was in the parade and wondered whether Governor Pawlenty had a contingent. I saw Pawlenty's contingent marching. Jeffers entry must have been at the end so I didn't see it. I did see and talk to some Jeffers people passing out stickers. There was no sign of DFLer Mike Hatch.

I also didn't see Patty Wetterling's contingent. I understand from a friend of mine who marched in that contingent that there were about 60 people in the contingent, and that Patty got a good reception from the crowd. There were a few Bachmann supporters who would yell "Michele's gonna kick your ass" to the Wetterling contingent - but most was positive. Avidor has a movie of Michele Bachmann's contingent over at Dump Bachmann.

Other candidates who were present include: David Francis (DFL, running for Michele Bachmann's senate seat), Ray VandeVeer (R, running for the same seat), Senator Brian LeClair (R, Woodbury), and his opponent Kathy Saltzman, Matt Dean and Mike Charron.

The Independence Party was out in force with a good sized contingent for John Binkowski (running for the US House seat against Michele Bachmann and Patty Wetterling) as well as a large Team Minnesota contingent with Peter Hutchinson.

If any candidates are reading this, and have photos of their contingents, email them to lloydletta@gmail.com, and I'll post the photos.

MCCL Fundraiser in Stillwater

Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life
4249 Nicollet Ave , Minneapolis , MN 55409
612-825-6831

There is still time to register for MCCL?s Evening on the Zephyr!

The Minnesota Zephyr

We'?ve been able to open up a second car?the [sic] ?Lake Winds??to accommodate more guests aboard the Minnesota Zephyr, an elegant five-car train in Stillwater; restored to resemble an original 1940s dining train. The Evening on the Zephyr is a new and exciting event that includes a train ride, dinner, entertainment and socializing, and will take place on Sunday, Aug. 13.

It?s an opportunity to enjoy a unique experience and support the pro-life movement at the same time.

Guests are asked to arrive at 5:30 p.m. at the Depot, located at 601 N. Main in historic Stillwater, for a social hour. A cash bar will be available as guests talk with MCCL staff members and view displays highlighting MCCL?s innovative projects, including the Fall Tour, Student Outreach, Hispanic Outreach, Legislation, County Fairs and more.

The three-and-half-hour train ride will begin at 6:30 p.m. and travel along the St. Croix River Valley. During the ride, the five-course meal of hors d?oeuvres, soup, salad, entrée and dessert will be prepared in the train?s four star kitchen and served. Musical entertainment will be provided by the Zephyr Cabaret singing hits from the 1940s and ?50s.

The ticket price, of which MCCL will receive a portion, is:

$75.00 per person for seating in the ?Lake Winds?

$125.00 per person for seating in the ?Dome?

This event not only raises money to help save the lives of Minnesota?s unborn children and other vulnerable persons, but is also a chance for members to meet the MCCL staff in a fun and relaxing environment.

Space is very limited, so please call today to reserve seats for you and your family! To register or for more information, call the MCCL State Office at 612-825-6831.


I wonder if MCCL is doing anything about the Forced Abortions on the Northern Mariana Islands?

Stay Tuned for Another Episode of Chatterer the Red Squirrel

Keep it here on Lloydletta's Nooz.

Monday, July 24, 2006

Fact is Stranger than Fiction

SIR TOBY BELCH Ay, Biddy, come with me. What, man! 'tis not for gravity to play at cherry-pit with Satan: hang him, foul collier!

MARIA Get him to say his prayers, good Sir Toby, get him to pray.

MALVOLIO My prayers, minx!

MARIA No, I warrant you, he will not hear of godliness.

MALVOLIO Go, hang yourselves all! you are idle shallow things: I am not of your element: you shall know more hereafter.

[Exit]

SIR TOBY BELCH Is't possible?

FABIAN If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction.

SIR TOBY BELCH His very genius hath taken the infection of the device, man.

MARIA Nay, pursue him now, lest the device take air and taint.

FABIAN Why, we shall make him mad indeed.

MARIA The house will be the quieter.

SIR TOBY BELCH Come, we'll have him in a dark room and bound. My niece is already in the belief that he's mad: we may carry it thus, for our pleasure and his penance, till our very pastime, tired out of breath, prompt us to have mercy on him: at which time we will bring the device to the bar and crown thee for a finder of madmen.

Act III Scene 4: Twelfth Night


Mike Hatch is the latest installment. I heard this on my way home from MPR. The Pioneer Press explains:

In the e-mail sent last Friday, the Star Tribune reporters asked Hatch to respond to allegations surrounding the parking ticket.

The reporters wanted comment on rumors that the attorney general parked his car because he was meeting his daughter, who was upset about a boyfriend. The reporters also wanted to know if the ticket "was of particular concern" because the area where the car was parked, a Mississippi River overlook in Mendota Heights, has a reputation for being cruising spot for gay men.

Hatch called this the most "sleazy type of innuendo."

He said Dakota County Sheriff Don Gudmundson first told him that he had received a request about Hatch's parking ticket back in March of 2005. The sheriff opined at the time, Hatch wrote, that the only reason he could think someone would want to know about the ticket was "perception that all overlooks?have beaches which are frequented by gay men in the summer."

The overlook where Hatch got the ticket, the attorney general wrote, lacks a beach and "the ticket was issued in the winter."

Last week, Hatch said he left his car at the overlook in order to drive with his wife to a party. He opted to go home with her and picked up his car, plus the $28 ticket, in the morning.

In the e-mail, the reporters also asked about rumors that Hatch found out about Entenza's research through a phone call that "might be described as a 'sting.'"

Hatch dismissed that line of questions in his complaint. He wrote that he "will not waste time" engaging in a "he said, she said" dialogue.


It's funny. This isn't the first time I heard this speculation about why Entenza was interested in the details about this parking ticket. What's kind of strange, is I had a conversation about this subject with an undisclosed source last week. We'll call the source "Eekhorinkie". Eekhorinkie told me the two scenarios, first telling me the speculation about the ticket being at a gay cruising place and the speculation was that Hatch was having sex with a man. I asked whether that was true. Eekhorinkie said, no, what actually was true was his daughter was having trouble with her boyfriend - and Mike Hatch was trying to help out. So I got a little sneak preview of what was going to appear in the Strib.

But I digress. This was idiotic of Mike Hatch. What part of the first amendment does he not understand? Not to mention, what's the point of picking a fight with those who buy ink by the barrel?

I wonder if Mike Hatch feels the same way about the press coverage of the Bush twins, or of Rod Grams son.

Colbert Report Did the Ralph Reed Defeat

He also mentioned Marilyn Musgrave and her ghost suite. I'm sure there will be video up at another site in the next day or so.

CPRT Posts IRS Electioneering Prohibition on Their Web Site

I wrote the following in September 3, 2005 Llloydletta post:

Citizens for Personal Rapid Transit (CPRT) July newsletter urges its members to help several candidates for Minneapolis City Council. Because the CPRT claims to be a 501(c)3 tax exempt organization, they may have run afoul of strict IRS rules that prohibit 501(c)3 nonprofits from electioneering.


The CPRT has recently posted the following on the front page of their website:

To stay compliant to IRS rules and regulations the board of Citizens for PRT is adopting the following policy;

"CPRT is absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.  The prohibition applies to all campaigns or fund raising activities including campaigns at the federal, state and local level.  The prohibition also applies to CPRT resources and properties. All CPRT members are prohibited from these activities while representing CPRT, at CPRT functions, or on CPRT properties. All CPRT activities or statements that might be exceptions to these prohibitions must be pre-approved by the CPRT board."

 For a more detailed explanation of this policy please refer to the governmental web bulletin for this: http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=154712,00.html


Has the IRS taken action against the CPRT?

Developing...

Scrub a Dub Dub

Kennedy v Machine are trying to make over Mark Kennedy again. Karl who?

Oh the Drama... the Drama

Chickaro and chickaree,
Who is there as smart as me?
Chickaro and chickaree,
Sharper wits you'll never see."

Now that was boasting; and boasting is one of the most foolish habits in the world. But Chatterer always was a boaster and probably always will be.

The Adventures of Sammy Jay by Thorton W Burgess, page 171


Chatterer was doing the boasting because he thought he'd outwitted Sammy Jay. Little did he know, Sammy had just outwitted him.

Now what does this have to do with the Drama Queen's preening? Well go over there, and check it out and see.

There's a picture of Chatterer the Red Squirrel here. More of Harrison Cady's artwork is available here.

Yowling at the Rove Post

Moses rose to the occasion and has done some excellent photoshop work showing Rove meeting the MOBsters. Thanks to MN Observer for the tip.

What goes on behind closed GOP doors?
If you hadn't known, Karl Rove slipped into town last week to raise money for Michele Bachmann's run for Congress in CD6. Some Minnesota right-wing bloggers got the opportunity to meet with the middle aged Boy Wonder. Let's take a guess, courtesy of a sneak peek from Brodkorb's Minnesota Democrats Demonized Demogogued Dehumanized no-no-no, it begins with an "e" Excoriated wait, I think I got it now Exposed:


Rove, Drama Queen and Other MOBsters Dream of a Theocratic Nation

Moses has more of his photoshop work over at Yowling at the Fencepost. Go check it out.

Forced Abortions Ad Used by Casey Cagle that Torpedoed Ralph Reed's Campaign

The ad is called "Truth" (video here), paid for the Casey Cagle campaign, and when analysed by the Annenburg Center's "Fact Check" found to be true. This is the hard hitting ad that torpedoed Ralph Reed's campaign.

Marianas Abortion and Prostitution?

The Cagle ad also says "Reed worked with Abramoff to deny women and children legal protection from sweat shops in the Northern Mariana Islands . . . even though our government warned that women on the islands were subject to forced abortions and children were coerced into prostitution." That's also true, though Reed says he wasn't aware of the concerns about abortion and prostitution.

Abramoff lobbied against legislation to impose federal wage and worker-safety standards on garment factories in the Northern Mariana Islands, where Chinese workers were brought in to produce clothing labeled "Made in the USA." Abramoff received just over $4 million for this work from 1998 through 2002.

On May 29 the Washington Post broke the story that Reed, an old friend of Abramoff since college days, had been hired to help in this effort as well. The newspaper described a flyer sent by Reed's marketing firm in 1999 urging Alabama conservative Christians to contact Bob Riley, then a member of the House, to vote against the legislation opposed by Abramoff. The flyer said the legislation would stop Chinese workers from coming to the island where they are "exposed to the teachings of Jesus Christ" and where many "are converted to the Christian faith and return to China with Bibles in hand."

As Cagle's ad says, however, the US Interior Department had found a year earlier that female Chinese garment workers were pressured to have abortions if they became pregnant, and that women and children were being forced into prostitution on the island. In a statement March 31, 1998, President Clinton's Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt said, "We . . . have evidence that at least some of the Chinese workers, when they become pregnant, are given a three-way choice: go home to China, get a back-alley abortion on Saipan, or get fired."

Reed's story is that he was unaware of reports that women were being mistreated, and was only working "to promote the propagation of the gospel" among Chinese workers on the island. Reed's spokeswoman Lisa Baron confirmed to the Post that Abramoff hired Reed's marketing firm for the effort. But she added, "As a defender of the unborn, Ralph was unaware of any allegations regarding inhumane or illegal treatment of workers, and he would strongly object to such practices, if true."


Ad copy. You can view the ad here thanks to the Annenburg Center:

Casey Cagle Ad: "Truth"

Announcer: Ralph Reed sold out our conservative values and is lying about Casey Cagle to hide it.
(Text On-Screen: "Ralph Reed Lying to Hide his Record")
Announcer: Ralph Reed took millions from convicted felon Jack Abramoff to help casinos.
(On Screen: "Reed Fees Paid by Casinos" - Atlanta Journal Constitution Nov. 3, 2005, "Reed Confirms Fees from Indian Casino Lobbyists" - Atlanta Journal Constitution Nov. 3 2005)
Announcer: And Reed worked with Abramoff to deny women and children legal protection from sweat shops in the Mariana Islands, a U.S. territory.
(On Screen: Reed Denied Women and Children Protection from Sweat Shops" Washington Post May 29, 2006)
Announcer: Even though our government warned that women on the Islands were subjected to forced abortions and children were coerced into prostitution.
(On Screen: "Forced Abortions" "Prostitution" - Washington Post May 29, 2006)
Announcer: Ralph Reed, his values are for sale.
(On Screen: "See The Proof" www.dontgambleonralph.com)


There are interesting comments over at Peach Pundit, a blog which covers Georgia politics. One links to more background on the Cagle ad which backs up the claims made by the ad.


Support of Forced Abortions

July 12, 2006 at 9:20 am · By Erick · Filed under Primaries, Republicans, Lt. Governor

I thought and think that the Cagle ad about Reed and the Mariana Islands is effective, if only for the tag line "his values are for sale." That line really drives home the point. I'm having to rethink that slightly.

With political season and early voting in full swing, I went downtown to a local eatery after hearing Maurice Atkinson on AM 940 this morning defending the ad. It seems that most people I eavesdropped on had been listening too (Kenny & Jami are popular with the political set around here), or had at least seen or heard the commercial. The Cagle supporters were having trouble defending the ad except by saying that Ralph Reed did support and/or encourage the rapes and forced abortions. I don’t think that’s exactly what Cagle meant, but that seems to be how the commercial is being defended by his supporters.

The problem with that is that no one seriously believes that Ralph Reed *supported* or *encouraged* rapes and forced abortions. This is one of those issues that I think Cagle has done a good job making the case for, but I'm starting to think that the issue is so complicated that it is difficult for the average Cagle supporter to defend it without the issue losing credibility. Consequently, it is making the attacks in general lose their credibility — crossing into a "we just hate Ralph" attack as opposed to a "his values are for sale and we need someone better" attack.

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34 Comments

1.
LeftOFLeft said,

July 12, 2006 @ 9:37 am

a redneck commercial for Cagle

hit em in the collarbone
jack em in the jaw
send em to the cemetery
rah! rah! rah!
2.
The Busdriver said,

July 12, 2006 @ 9:38 am

You're missing the point. At no point has anyone claimed Ralph ecouraged forced abortions or endorsed coerced prostitution.

What Cagle IS saying is that Ralph knew the sweat shop masters were guilty of these sins, and yet Ralph still worked to provide the sweat shop masters with political cover.

Ralph knew all that was going on, but he took the money anyway. THAT is the point they’re making, and that is a point that registers.

As Ralph has said many, many times: "This is a piece of business I should have turned down."
3.
BahamaBoy said,

July 12, 2006 @ 9:42 am

As Ralph will say next Wednesday: "This is a political race I should have turned down."
4.
Erick said,

July 12, 2006 @ 9:45 am

Busdriver, I'm not missing the point, but I think a lot of people are.
5.
Chris Farris said,

July 12, 2006 @ 9:50 am

The whole Marianias Islands issue is too complex to reduce into a decent sound bite. As one candidate told me after the debates, when Casey brought to the Mariana Islands no one had any idea what he was talking about. Are the Mary Anne Islands up by lake lanier?
6.
Maurice Atkinson said,

July 12, 2006 @ 9:59 am

I believe the ad is fair game given the fact that Ralph contracted the work. I am not versed on this issue and hoped to not to have to address it. I am versed on numerous other issues. Ralph calls it guilt by association, but who is the common thread in this? Ralph and Jack. Commonsense would conclude that there are serious problems with Ralph's alliances.

http://www.dontgambleonralph.com/TheTruth.pdf.

As the ad said: "Ralph Reed: His values are for sale". I think this ad did him in.

Stillwater Lumberjack Days Parade

Ken Avidor and I went to the Stillwater Lumberjack Days Parade. I was especially impressed by the showings of the Independence Party Candidates John Binkowski (running for the 6th District Congressional seat) and Peter Hutchinson (with "Team Minnesota"). Both had a healthy number of volunteers. Binkowski had lots of energy and he got out into the crowd and talked with people. Hutchinson had a flatbed with two sumo wrestlers - one identified as "DFL" and the other identified as "Republican" in his contingent. Ken videotaped the Michele Bachmann contingent and we've got the footage over at Dump Bachmann.

Kathy Saltzman (running against Brian LeClair) had an energized and large contingent. Kathy was out there in the crowd shaking hands and introducing herself to people.

Kids and adults alike were taking stickers from all candidates. It was striking that most candidates there left off the party identification on their signs. This was true of Amy Klobuchar, Mark Kennedy and many others.

Sunday, July 23, 2006

Say It Isn't So!

Coloradans for Life has connected the dots from the forced abortions in the Marianas Islands' factories to America's Chastity Belt, Rep. Marilyn Musgrave of Colorado.

Women who worked in the Marianas Islands' factories were tricked into signing contracts by being told they would work in "U.S. factories" and some faced forced abortions when they became pregnant. Marilyn helped make this possible.


Musgrave Must Go fills in the details.

The Forced Abortion issue is what I believe brought Ralph Reed down.

Flying Under the Radar


Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:10:58 -0700
To: Ralph Reed [ralph@ralphreed.com]
Subject: flying under the radar

Ralph - I'm often reminded of your remark when you were at the Christian Coalition about "flying under the radar and you don't know it's over until you're in a body bag."

Guess it works.

:>)
Mike Triggs
former Executive Director of the Minnesota Republican Party


I always like it when things work.