Because he puts embryos' interests ahead of Alzheimers, Parkinsons victims
These people aren't "pro-life"--they're pro-death! With their votes, they attempted to sentence people suffering from Alzheimers, Parkinson's and many other diseases to an early death--just so they can continue pretending they care about embryos that will continue to be thrown in the dumpsters of fertility clinics every day. I hope they never need to be cured of these diseases--and if they do, I hope they reject the cures derived from embryonic stem cells.
The bill passed. Why bitch about Oberstar's vote?
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 06:39 PM by scarletwoman
I'm sure he knew there were enough votes for it to pass, therefore he also knew that voting his OWN conscience wouldn't change the outcome.
He's MY representative, and I'm happy to defend him. As a past DFL activist, I've met and conversed with him, asked him hard questions and gotten thougthtful and respectful answers.
He IS "pro-life", but he is in no way a demagogue about it. He does not actively advocate and work against the right to choose, but he does vote his personal conscience on this kind of legislation.
As his constituent, I really have no problem with that. I believe it was Lydia Leftcoast who put it most succinctly back in 2004: Oberstar is economically liberal and socially conservative. It's a winning combination in the rural 8th District that has returned him to the House for over 30 years now. I'd FAR rather have Jim Oberstar looking after my and my neighbor's interests than Rod Grams, for gawdsakes!
So, please get over your outrage. He didn't endanger the outcome of the vote while he stayed true to his personal principles. It looks like a win-win situation to me. He hasn't served all this time without being a damn smart politician.
Sorry, plenty of outrage here
"So, please get over your outrage. He didn't endanger the outcome of the vote while he stayed true to his personal principles. It looks like a win-win situation to me. He hasn't served all this time without being a damn smart politician."
What a crock! Lots of politicians "stayed true to their principles" and voted for Bush's war in Iraq too. Look where that got us. How about if all the politicians who "voted their personal principles" would have voted FOR stem-cell research. Where would we be? The American people are overwhelmingly in favor of ALL stem-cell research, regardless of what Oberstar's warped pro-disease "principles" are. Instead, Oberstar voted to continue throwing embryos into the dumpster instead of using them to cure disease. There's no ngetting away from that fact.
Oberstar doesn't get off the hook on this one any more than Michele Bachmann does (Oberstar and Bachmann voted the same way). As for Rod Grams, Oberstar voted EXACTLY the same way Rod Grams would have voted.
Tell that to people suffering from Alzheimer's and Parkinson's
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 06:41 PM by Minnesota Raindog
I guess it's easy to call yourself "pro-life" when your own life isn't at stake.
And if these blastocysts are equal to human beings and their destruction is murder, why isn't there a move to stop the "holocaust" going on inside fertility clinics?
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16. Oh for cripesakes! The bill PASSED! Oberstar certainly KNEW the bill would pass!
Therefore, it was safe for him to vote the way he did.
If you don't live in the 8th District, I guess you'll just have to keep sputtering on the sidelines. I suggest you get over it and move on. We have bigger fish to fry than a bill that actually passed.
Like the Iraq invasion and occupation, which Oberstar voted against.
Oberstar deserves grief on this one. Oberstar should be asked whether he thinks In Vitro Fertilization should be made illegal - since it creates excess blastocysts, that are subsequently destroyed.