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Tuesday, April 03, 2007

Triple A's Blog Throws Gasoline on the GOP Party Chair Race

I posted yesterday about the GOP Party Chair Race getting nasty. Check out the comments:

# Psycmeistr Says:
April 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pm

It doesn’t matter what the politicians support or don’t support.

It will come down to the delegates; and it’s about time the delegates take the grass roots’ party back.
# dan Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:48 am

Hear hear!
# Michael B. Brodkorb Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 9:23 am

Psycmeistr/Gary:

For the past 35 years, Ron Carey have been a proud movement conservative. He is a grassroots chair for the Republican Party. Carey has a great relationship with the delegates.
# J. Ewing Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 9:36 am

To which I would ask, “Why did you give it up in the first place?” If the delegates will not take action in their own BPOUs and CDs that will find and elect “better” candidates– those who will advance conservative principles, not just warm a seat– then why should they bother taking action on leadership? That’s just enough to make some, not even all, delegates feel as if they’re doing something, when they ought to be doing a lot more. “Taking the Party back” is worthless unless you know what to do with it after you get it.
# Andy Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 10:05 am

Can anyone close to Carey answer the questions I asked above?

Did Ron Carey confirm these people’s support before he sent their names out publicly once Repya had announced?
# coreconservative Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 am

MDE: You need to get out of the Metro more. Out here where we actually elect Republicans, Carey is seen as a complete and utter failure. If you think he has a great relationship with the delegates, you must be listening to Ron, and Ron only. There is an impending disaster coming for the Carey camp and Ron knows it. I would imagine you’ll see him withdraw prior to June so as to exit gracefully and not be embarrased by the overwhelming rural CD vote for Repya.
# Michael B. Brodkorb Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm

Coreconservative:

For the past 35 years, Ron Carey have been a proud movement conservative. He is a grassroots chair for the Republican Party. Carey has a great relationship with the delegates across the state. Over the past few days, I’ve spoken with numerous delegates in greater Minnesota who are proudly supporting Ron Carey.
# coreconservative Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 pm

MDE:

Movement conservative? I think not. Certainly not a libertarian conservative in the mold of Goldwater or Reagan. Certainly a Christian conservative.

Grassroots? He might schmooz the grassroots, but how much did he spend in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th? On state legislative, judicial and congressional races? NOT ONE DIME!

Supporters? Go ahead, keep your head in the sand. I’m out here actually counting votes. Carey is toast.
# mrtruth Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 pm

There is a great deal of support for Carey some of which might leave if a better option comes along. I’m still waiting for the phone call from anyone who thinks they can do better!
# J. Ewing Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 3:07 pm

Is this really the debate we want to be having, arguing about who should be chair? Shouldn’t we be concerned about what every BPOU and CD AND the State Party ought to be doing to get our act together? I am just simply not seeing how electing one person as chair, by a 51-49 vote or even a 70-30 vote, is going to solve our fundamental problems of low fundraising, disillusioned activists, a shortage of good candidates, and an inability to “sell” our conservative message. Is a disunifying fight really that helpful?
# coreconservative Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm

Yes it is a necessary fight. In many ways it is a microcosm that mirrors the Rockefeller/Goldwater ‘64 and Reangan/Ford ‘76 national debate over who is best suited to reunite us under core conservative principles that the majority of voters can flock to.

It is also about the integrity of who will lead us as Chair. Our current Chair knowingly put out a statewide letter over the last few days listing his ’steering committee’ knowing full well that some of those listed no longer supported him. What we’re not getting from the Carey camp is the truth. What we are getting is smoke and mirrors. Worse yet, now even Brodkorb is ’schilling’ for him. It is hard to imagine that he would jeopardize the long term credibility of MDE over this.

If our current Chair really believes he can change and eliminate the fractious situation within the Party then he needs to first come clean about the defections ‘en masse’ from his supporters and even some on his steering committee. Do I think he will do this? NO.

If we are to get back to being a cohesive Party, we certainly can’t do it under the mantle of someone who will be tainted by this mini-scandal that is brewing. We don’t need a leader who won’t come clean and would rather wati until he and the Party are publicly embarrased by this. I am not the only one familiar with who the defectors are and eventually someone other than me will begin to name names.

Hey, MDE (you’re on the steering committee, so) get ahold of Carey and tell him to come clean before it’s too late. Then we’ll know if he really is more concerned with what’s best for the Party or just what’s best for himself.
# onvacation Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:22 pm

I have been out of the state for a few months, but I find it hard to believe that Carey would have any support right now. He can’t excite activists, he can’t fundraise and the press thinks he’s a joke. Its time for the adults to take over again.
# the Lady Logician Says:
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:22 pm

CoreConservative said ” He might schmooz the grassroots, but how much did he spend in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th? On state legislative, judicial and congressional races? NOT ONE DIME!”

I don’t know about the rest of it, but the few measley pennies that my corner of the 2nd District got didn’t amount to much and we had to beg, plead, cajole and THREATEN before we got anything. We were entirely on our own the final 15 days of the election - THEY EVEN TOOK OUR FIELD STAFFER AWAY FROM US!!!! That is not the kind of support I expected out of Chairman Carey. Shoot we got more support out of the Bush campaign in 2004 than we got out of the MNGOP in 2006!!!!!

MDE said “He is a grassroots chair for the Republican Party.”

If he WERE the “grassroots chair” Michael, he would be listening to the grassroots - especially those who are unhappy with the “leadership” we are getting out of St. Paul and DC and he would be telling us what he can or can not do to change things, instead of making excuses and blaming the grassroots for the party’s failures! He would also be listening to us when we PLEAD for some direction (aka leadership) out of him.

The grassroots is looking for the positive Reaganesque message. What we are getting out of Chairman Carey is press release after press release about what crooks the DFL are. While that gives you an endless supply of blogging fodder, it doesn’t do the grassroots volunteers any good. Our neighbors what to know WHY they should vote Republican, not that the DFL are abject scum.

JE is right though…“Taking the Party back” IS worthless if we don’t know what to do with it. The question we should be asking ourselves (as delegates) is what are we going to do to move the party forward if we take it back. Complaining about the status quo does nothing. There must be constructive, forward looking ideas too. Do we have any? Do the candidates have any? We don’t have a lot of time to find out. The state Convention is a scant 60 days away.

LL


What a meltdown. I wonder if they have filled that Controller position yet.

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