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Wednesday, May 23, 2007

I call Out MFC's Chuck Darrell

Over at the Drama Queen's Blog:

# Chuck Darrell Says:
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 pm

Liberals energized social conservatives to close ranks and fight domestic partnerships, mandatory sex education, smoked “medical” marijuana and others.

Governor Pawlenty received thousands of calls in the last week of the session. Concerned parents thanked the Governor for signaling his opposition to mandatory sex education, and urged him to veto any bill containing same.

Mandatory sex education was removed in the 11th hour of the session.

Thank you Gov. Pawlenty.

# Eva Young Says:
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:42 pm

Have to hand it to the anti-gay theocrats at the Minnesota Family Council - their campaign of lies was effective. That in addition to an ineffective Outfront Minnesota got the Dems to first throw gays under the bus (dropping the domestic partner provisions), then the comprehensive sex education bill.

The Abstinence Only - condoms don’t work sex ed programs that the MFC and their ilk support do not reduce teenage sex - but they do help increase the chances that the teenagers participating in those programs have unprotected sex when they do engage in sex - after all - if “condoms don’t work”, then what’s the point.

I recall well Tom Prichard’s testimony in 1999 in opposition to repealing the sodomy law - Prichard said that repealing the sodomy law would increase teenage pregnancy. I’d challenge Chuck Darrell to explain that one.

Karl Bremer interviewed Prichard after his testimony against repealing the sodomy laws. The interview is published on Lloydletta’s Nooz:


# Chuck Darrell Says:
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pm

Thanks Eva.

What does the defeat of comp sex ed have to do with an “ineffective OutFront Minnesota”?

# Eva Young Says:
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:32 pm

Chuck - I notice you didn’t answer my question. How does repealing the Minnesota Sodomy law increase the incidence of teenage pregnancy? Tom Prichard testified that this would happen when this bill was heard in 1999, and I always wondered about this. Please explain this one.

Outfront Minnesota was ineffective in the DP benefits issue - that showed when they didn’t object when the Democrats dropped the issue - there were other orgs that worked harder on the comp sex ed issue (though I believe Outfront took a public position in favor of it).

# Eva Young Says:
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:36 pm

BTW, Chuck - noticed your CLE Seminar - how is a seminar taught by Jason Lewis eligible for Continuing Legal Education credits?

# Chet Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 8:10 am

anti-gay theocrats

For everyone else, this is Bachmann-Obsessive’s divisive term for vast majority of people who have ever lived who, down through the centuries, view homosexuality as wrong. Dare to hold this normal position and, to her, you’re a “theocrat”.

# otterscrubber Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 am

And a “theocrat” is somone who is primarily interested in dictating to others what sorts of relationships or arrangements people have in their personal lives. Big Government in the bedroom, if you will.

# Chuck Darrell Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 am

Eva,

Here is a question for you: Why did you choose to ignore Johnson’s supreme court remarks when you heard them, first hand, at Bethlehem Lutheran?

# Eva Young Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 5:56 pm

Chuck - you are still avoiding the questions - I’ll answer your question when you explain this:

How does repealing the Minnesota Sodomy law increase the incidence of teenage pregnancy? Tom Prichard testified that this would happen when this bill was heard in 1999, and I always wondered about this. Please explain this one.

Theocracy - Answers.com: theocracy

Government by divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided. In many theocracies, government leaders are members of the clergy, and the state’s legal system is based on religious law. Theocratic rule was typical of early civilizations. The Enlightenment marked the end of theocracy in most Western countries. Contemporary examples of theocracies include Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Vatican. See also church and state; divine kingship.

Theocrat is either a ruler in a theocracy, or a believer in a theocracy.

A little history for folks - the MFC - as the Berean League, got started in 1982 to fight repeal of the Minnesota Sodomy Law -

609.293 Sodomy.

Subdivision 1. Definition. “Sodomy” means carnally knowing any person by the anus or by or with the mouth. Subd. 5. Consensual acts. Whoever, in cases not coming within the provisions of sections 609.342 or 609.344, voluntarily engages in or submits to an act of sodomy with another may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both.

HIST: 1967 c 507 s 4; 1977 c 130 s 4; 1984 c 628 art 3 s 11

This covers married couples - and activities that many married couples engage in. The MFC believes that Government should be meddling in people’s bedrooms - and it isn’t just gay bedrooms.

# Chuck Darrell Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 7:14 pm

Eva,

Sheesh, you need some new material. The topic is the 2007 session, (less Sen. Dean Johnson) not Eva’s Worn-out Oldies from last century.

The question - germane to this session - was whether mandatory sex education would remain in the E-12 bill. Gov. Pawlenty answered no.
# Eva Young Says:
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 pm

Chuck, In other words, you can’t answer the question. You can’t justify your organizations support of sodomy laws. And you can’t explain Prichard’s testimony that repealing sodomy laws would increase teenage pregnancy. Are you embarrassed by your organization’s history? It certainly seems like it.

Why did your organization do auto-calls (I got three messages on my phone) that started with “anal and oral-anal sex” then went on to talk about the E-12 bill. I’m wondering whether Governor Pawlenty would approve of that sort of broadcast message to voters. How many kids picked up the phone and heard that message?


It will be interesting to see whether Chuck Darrell answers the questions about his organization's dirty talking robo-calls.

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