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Thursday, November 01, 2007

Dump Bachmann Calls Out Julie Quist from Edwatch

Cross Posted at Dump Bachmann.

Dump Bachmann warmly welcomes the one and only Julie Quist of the Anti-Gay and Creationist Education non-profit arm to Michele Bachmann's campaign "Edwatch" got called out to respond on my post about Michele Bachmann's sudden lack of spine on her "Earthquake Issue":

I want to set the record straight on Michele Bachmann's comments at the 2004 EdWatch conference that you referred to here. Go back and listen to that again, and you will find that she does not say that "being gay is like being 'part of Satan.' "

I have the same tape you have, Eva. What she is discussing there is the terminology of "gay" being used to describe homosexuality. She says that the description of homosexuality as "gay" is a lie, and that lie is what comes from Satan.

Get the difference? Homosexuals are not from Satan. Satan, however, is the father of lies.

You may find both statements equally offensive. You need to be accurate, however, in your accusations, because many people do distinguish between saying a person is "from Satan" or identifying a lie as "from Satan."

I know Michele Bachmann personally, and I will testify to you that she harbors no hatred toward you or to others with whom she has deep differences. Far from it. She would not make a statement that you or any others with whom you associate are "from Satan," much as she would dispute your actions and ideas.
Julie Quist


Other Dump Bachmann contributors responded:

Interesting take on it, Julie. Here is the actual quote:

“It’s part of Satan I think to say that this is “gay.” It’s anything but gay.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, speaking at EdWatch National Education Conference, November 6, 2004.

Here are some other quotes, also from Michele on tape. I think this gives you a pretty good idea of how Michele sees gay Americans, and how she portrays them to their fellow Americans. These are all public statements by Michele on the issue of gay Americans. Readers can decide for themselves whether or not Michele sowed bigotry and hatred in pursuit of political office:

“If you’re involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it’s bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair and personal enslavement.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, speaking at EdWatch National Education Conference, November 6, 2004.

“You have a teacher talking about his gayness. (The elementary school student) goes home then and says “Mom! What’s gayness? We had a teacher talking about this today.” The mother says “Well, that’s when a man likes other men, and they don’t like girls.” The boy’s eight. He’s thinking, “Hmm. I don’t like girls. I like boys. Maybe I’m gay.” And you think, “Oh, that’s, that’s way out there. The kid isn’t gonna think that.” Are you kidding? That happens all the time. You don’t think that this is intentional, the message that’s being given to these kids? That’s child abuse.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, speaking at EdWatch National Education Conference, November 6, 2004.

On a leader of a teacher training workshop who cites discrimination as a cause of suicide among homosexual youth: “(He) also fails to acknowledge other psychological factors that could contribute to homosexual youth committing suicide, like family problems or abuse or maybe the fact of what they’re doing.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, speaking at EdWatch National Education Conference, November 6, 2004.

On homosexuality as a mental disorder: “Don’t misunderstand. I am not here bashing people who are homosexuals, who are lesbians, who are bisexual, who are transgender. We need to have profound compassion for people who are dealing with the very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life and sexual identity disorders.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, speaking at EdWatch National Education Conference, November 6, 2004.

On the gay community and same-sex marriage: “This is a very serious matter, because it is our children who are the prize for this community, they are specifically targeting our children.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, appearing as guest on radio program “Prophetic Views Behind The News”, hosted by Jan Markell, KKMS 980-AM, March 20, 2004.

This is not about hating homosexuals. I don’t. I love homosexuals.” — Senator Michele Bachmann, appearing as guest on radio program “Prophetic Views Behind The News”, hosted by Jan Markell, KKMS 980-AM, March 20, 2004.

Interviewer: “Answer the question, do you hate homos?” MB: “No, but ask my kids! (laughter)” — Senator Michele Bachmann, Tom Barnard Morning Show, KQRS, broadcast May 12, 2005.

If Michele had pursued political office by railing against heterosexual adulterers or thieves in the same way that she railed against gay Americans, you might have a point. But she didn't--she singled out this particular "sin" and appealed to her audience's homophobia. Singling out one kind of "sinner" as the target of public opprobrium and fearmongering, telling the gullible that they threaten America's children--that is not Christianity, that is not moral. It's just exploiting bigotry against an unpopular minority for political gain and doing so in Christ's name--which, I suppose, is just as grievous a sin as homosexuality ever could be. There is a commandment against making wrongful use of God's sacred name.

But that's a large part of who this politician is. In fact, it's the main reason she's come so far so fast. Sorry, but that's the reality and the rest of us have to deal with that reality even if you don't want to.

But thanks for writing in--Michele's supporters have always been welcomed in the comment threads.
Bill Prendergast Edit comment Delete comment | Homepage | 11.01.07 - 3:17 am | #

"Singling out one kind of "sinner" as the target of public opprobrium and fearmongering, telling the gullible that they threaten America's children--that is not Christianity, that is not moral. It's just exploiting bigotry against an unpopular minority for political gain and doing so in Christ's name--which, I suppose, is just as grievous a sin as homosexuality ever could be."

Bill, Julie Quist knows this. She's been engaging in this campaign of bigotry at least as long as Bachmann. But it's nice to know she's keeping up on everything Bachmann here at DB.

But Julie, as long as we've got your attention, do you think you could get Michele to at least stop lying habitually?
Karl


Julie, I think Bill speaks for me. Michele Bachmann's quote speaks for itself. I'd challenge Michele Bachmann to come over to the blog and defend her own words. We have them on tape.

Here is Michele Bachmann speaking in Blaine at the Senate District 51 Republican Convention. She talks about her efforts on the Bachmann amendment, and talks about being the "tip of the spear" with a "titanium spine".

Where did the titanium spine go Michele? Is hate-mongering about gays becoming a political liability?

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