In our last episode we wrote about SD 35 Republican BPOU Chair, True North "nucleus" and MOB Blogger, Cindy Whitehair, aka the Lady Logician's post that responded to a Nick Coleman column column going after Archbishop John Nienstedt for his anti-gay animus. In her post, the Logical One suggested that Leviticus 20:13 supported the Archbishop's position.
The Lady Logician said...
I didn't quote Leviticus 20:13 - I quoted Leviticus 18:22...Is that the best you can do?
Actually, she quoted 20:13:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
The Logical One continues:
I also find it interesting that this is how you respond to a civil conversation. It speaks volumes about you.
Regarding Lev 20:13 you totally skip over the part where it says that the blood guilt (for the sin) is ON THE HEAD OF THE SINNERS!
Nice of you to put words in other peoples mouths....
I quoted you directly LL. Please answer the question? Does your quoting of Leviticus 20:13 mean you agree with its call for the Death Penalty for gays? A simple yes or no will do.
What is "blood guilt"?
Savage Republican said...
Actually, she's a Christian so you have to read both parts of the bible.
All the penalties for sin have been paid in full by Jesus.
So yes there is a call for death penalty (for this and all the other sins), but the penalty was already paid.
But the important part is also the go forth and sin no more.
And she is not part of the "Leviticus crowd.
It is Genesis that sets out the plan. Leviticus is just because people were too dense to see it clearly.
And again, condemn the sin, love the sinner.
As for 'blood guilt', the guilt for the loss of their life. In other words the sinner is to blame for his sin.
MarkH, a contributor here, also left a comment over on the Logical One's post:
Lady Logician - which half of the Bible are you cheering for? The Old Testament or the New?
I only wish that the Archbishop focused on teaching the Gospel.
If you read the Gospel of John very carefully, you'll find out that the only sin cited is that of unbelief.
I have no personal need to be welcomed by the Catholic Church. I'm a lifelong Protestant, and do not anticipate changing my mind about the role of a Pope any time in the foreseeable future.
There's no Pope in the Bible...
The Archbishop's assertion that a homosexual orientation is caused by some childhood trauma is mind-boggling and insulting. Unless of course he's referring to children being abused by Catholic clergy?
By Markh, at 12:14 AM
And the soap opera continues.