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Tuesday, December 04, 2007

True North and MOB Blogger Lady Logician Quotes Leviticus on Death Penalty for Homosexuals

True North "nucleus" and Republican Party BPOU Chair of Senate District 35 Cindy Whitehair, aka Lady Logician doesn't like Nick Coleman's column going after Archbishop John Nienstedt for his anti-gay animus. Later in a post on True North, she linked to this post.

Now I can not speak to the Catholic Catechism as I am not a Catholic. However, I have enough Catholics in my life that I have been exposed to enough to know that Nickolae is wrong again! Nick obviously has not read his Old Testament or if he has he conveniently skipped over this passage.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

That is Leviticus chapter 20 verse 13 and the emphasis is mine. Merriam Websters Dictionary defines abomination as "worthy of or causing disgust or hatred". A sin "worthy of or causing disgust or hatred" is considered to be a grave evil which the Archbishop says homosexuality is IS. Doctrinally, there is nothing out of line in what the Archbishop said!


Death Penalty for Homosexuals Sign carried at 2004 Anti-Gay Rally at Minnesota State Capitol

Death Penalty for Homosexuals Sign carried at 2004 Anti-Gay Rally at Minnesota State Capitol
Photo by: Bert Schlauch. Used with permission.

Thanks for making this so clear Lady Logician. The Lady Logician definitely seems to be part of the Leviticus Crowd.

The Lady Logician also contributes to the Senate District 35 Blog "The official blog of the Senate District 35 (MN) Republican Party BPOU" and AntiStrib of "Dirt Worshiping Heathens" fame.

From the True North Biographies:

The Lady Logician
Nucleus

Cindy Whitehair (aka the Lady Logician) is a self-described "soccer mom" complete with the mini-van. She shares the Logical Household with her husband, son and two dogs Lucky the worlds best border collie and Captain Jack (Sparrow).

A native of the Chicago area (motto - vote early and often) she escaped to "God's Country" 13 years ago. She still carries a couple of Chicago habits (a love of the Cubs and the Bears) but in almost all other aspects has become "Minnesotan" including the accent!

She began blogging in 2005 when she was invited to join "The Savage Republican". After blogging there for a year, she struck out on her own and has been typing away ever since. Besides blogging, she is active in the Minnesota GOP as a volunteer and BPOU Chair and as a 4H adult leader.


I wonder what Senator Claire Robling, will think of her BPOU Chair's post.

9 comments:

Brent said...

I don't get it.

Sure she quoted the bible, but she also said to love the sinner not the sin.

I think you're blowing this WAY out of proportion.

Tracy said...

So the Catholics don't want you? Big Deal! The Muslims don't either and I don't hear much whining about that.

Join a pro-gay church or start your own.

As a protestant, I just don't see what the big deal is? There are billions of people that the Catholics don't want.

lloydletta said...

She quoted a bible verse that called for the Death Penalty for Gays to justify her position.

It's fair enough to ask whether she supports that verse - since she used that to justify the Archbishop's stance.

And it's that Islamic extremism also goes after gays (in many theocratic Islamic countries, gays are put to death). I don't want that in this country.

Lady Logician's words speak for themselves.

lloydletta said...

BTW, thanks for stopping by and commenting.

The Lady Logician said...

I didn't quote Leviticus 20:13 - I quoted Leviticus 18:22...Is that the best you can do?

I also find it interesting that this is how you respond to a civil conversation. It speaks volumes about you.

Regarding Lev 20:13 you totally skip over the part where it says that the blood guilt (for the sin) is ON THE HEAD OF THE SINNERS!

Nice of you to put words in other peoples mouths....

LL

Avidor said...

What is "blood guilt"?

Savage Republican said...

Actaully, she's a Christian so you have to read both parts of the bible.
All the penalties for sin have been paid in full by Jesus.
So yes there is a call for death penalty (for this and all the other sins), but the penalty was already paid.
But the important part is also the go forth and sin no more.

And she is not part of the "Leviticus crowd.
It is Genesis that sets out the plan. Leviticus is just because people were too dense to see it clearly.

And again, condemn the sin, love the sinner.

As for 'blood guilt', the guilt for the loss of their life. In other words the sinner is to blame for his sin.

lloydletta said...

Thanks for stopping by, LL. You didn't directly respond to my question. The verse you quoted - 18:22 as you correctly point out, called for the death penalty for gays. That much was clear. I was asking whether you took the verse literally since you were using that verse to justify the Archbishop's position. You were NOT talking about the gospel.

So my question remains: Do you support the Death Penalty for Gays - as prescribed in Leviticus 18:22? That should be an easy enough yes or not question.

I didn't put words in your mouth, I copied and pasted an excerpt from your post. Those were your words.

lloydletta said...

Aw, I missed something - I took your word for verse numbers:

LL: I didn't quote Leviticus 20:13 - I quoted Leviticus 18:22...Is that the best you can do?

Your post said:

That is Leviticus chapter 20 verse 13 and the emphasis is mine. Merriam Websters Dictionary defines abomination as "worthy of or causing disgust or hatred". A sin "worthy of or causing disgust or hatred" is considered to be a grave evil which the Archbishop says homosexuality is IS. Doctrinally, there is nothing out of line in what the Archbishop said!

EY: I googled the biblical text you quoted - and it was Leviticus 20:13.