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Sunday, April 19, 2009

NY Times on Ruben Diaz's Eruption

Ruben Diaz is New York's Democratic Michele Bachmann. Like Bachmann, he is willing to tie up all legislative business in order to stop same sex marriage.

Bronx Senator Organizing Protest of Marriage Bill

Patrick Andrade for The New York Times
State Senator Rubén Díaz Sr.
Only hours after Gov. David A. Paterson said he would introduce legislation to legalize same-sex marriage in New York, about 100 people attended a meeting on Thursday at the Christian Community Neighborhood Church in the Bronx, where State Senator Rubén Díaz Sr. is the pastor, to discuss plans to protest.

Mr. Díaz, a conservative Democrat and a Pentecostal minister, is one of the staunchest opponents of same-sex marriages in New York. Democrats took control of the State Senate in November, but they hold a slim majority, 32 to 30, and their leaders are fearful of alienating Mr. Díaz and others by holding a vote on same-sex marriage.

The church meeting, led by Mr. Diaz, was organized by the New York Hispanic Clergy Association. In attendance were Hispanic bishops and pastors from churches across the city, as well as some congregants.

Mr. Díaz told those in attendance that they were starting to plan a large rally to be held some time in May.

Will they be carrying the same sorts of signs that were carried at the 2004 Bachmann amendment rally?

From the comments:

April 16, 2009
3:01 pm
If State Senator Reverend Rubin Diaz Senior is opposed to gay marriage, then he personally shouldn’t marry a man!

But he shouldn’t cram his morality down the throats of others!

Not everybody is Pentecostal, Senator/Reverend!

Save your moralism for the pulpit - not the Senate floor!

— Gregory A. Butler
2. April 16, 2009
3:10 pm
Exactly if someone does not want to get married - don’t get married! But no one has the right to stop a consenting adult from getting married to the person they love!

“there will be no gay marriage,” Mr. Díaz said.”

Sorry Mr. Diaz but there already is gay marriage, today in this country, and it is coming to NY.

Religious conservatives do not represent the people of this city or country and their agenda to oppress will fail.

3. April 16, 2009
3:12 pm
So it’s ok to push the so-called ‘rights’ of illegal immigrants down people’s throats, but not the rights of US Citizens to marry?

— EJ
4. April 16, 2009
3:14 pm
This is the debate we must have. Let them speak. Their speach will make plain their bigotry and hate. And when we win this vote, let us next propose that clergy of all stripes be ineligible to hold public office, even those who “earned” the title through street-corner oratory.

— Michael
5. April 16, 2009
3:17 pm
Dear Rev. Lopez, when speaking of the “Hispanic community,” please note that gay marriage is legal in Spain. Please also accept that the so called “Hispanic community” is not a monolithic bloc that hase one singular ideology and that nobody has the right to be a self-proclaimed representative of that community.

— Sam
6. April 16, 2009
3:20 pm
I still don’t understand what a evangelical right-wing nutcase is doing in the Democratic party.

— Simon
7. April 16, 2009
3:22 pm
Please tell Rev. Michael Lopez to stop speaking on behalf of all Hispanics. I am one and a proud gay man too, who can’t understand why children of God hold on to hate.

— Eddy
8. April 16, 2009
3:23 pm
“As long as you need me, there will be no gay marriage,” Mr. Díaz said.

Well, pack your bags, sir. Your services are no longer needed. We require a government that serves ALL members of its constituency.

— Chris_EV
9. April 16, 2009
3:23 pm
Anything to add more paying customers to the congregation.

— Perley J. Thibodeau
10. April 16, 2009
3:24 pm
So because one religion (not my religion mind you) says that people can’t have their right to marry it should be done? What about those religions that do support it? Or even the fact I am not Xtian I should be denied rights as well?

Hey Gay and Lesbian people, our High Priestess and High Priests have no problem with your being married.

— Former Jew Now Wiccan
11. April 16, 2009
3:25 pm
Christians and particularly gay latino christians, need to speak out against this homophobia. The “Reverend” seems to think he speaks for all.

This is the same type of self-serving, moral rhetoric that was used to deny minorities equal rights! Does Diaz remember the days when blacks and latinos werent “equal?”

April 16, 2009
4:20 pm
Mr Diaz has to be removed from public office. He is not representing me and I live in his district. He ran as a Democrat but does not adhere to the Democratic Party platform and needs to be opposed.

If the Democratic party was really smart they would find him another appointed position that he could not refuse to accept and replace him with a real Democrat. I will cross party lines before I vote for someone who is opposed to my interests as Mr Diaz certainly is.

In this country people have the privilage of religious freedom but allowing Mr Diaz to use his position as a Democratic Senator to espouse a religious viewpoint is surely not what we expected or wanted when he ran on the Democratic line.

— Susan
27. April 16, 2009
4:23 pm
Guess this nut job wasn’t asked the right questions before getting elected. Run for office in your church, not the state government. Go ahead and deny gay men and women the right to marry in YOUR church, but NOT in this state. Take a mental trip back in time to the South in the 1960’s…and tell yourself how good you feel that the government says you pay taxes, but don’t have all the rights given to everyone else that pays taxes. Remember why they did that? Because you’re different!!! Hold a mirror up to your face and say out loud “I’m going to deny people rights because they are different than I am…and it’s my job to make sure they don’t have those rights.” And if that makes you feel good, then read out loud the 3rd and 4th word in the first sentence above.

— Joe


Anonymous said...

Forced acceptance: That's not tolerance

Wednesday, May. 6, 2009

Last year, a lesbian couple in New Mexico requested quotes from several wedding photographers. One Christian photographer replied that she does not shoot same-sex weddings. She didn't want to use her art to promote something she disagreed with. Even though the couple could choose from every other photographer in the entire state of New Mexico, they sued that one for discrimination. They won.

If the same-sex marriage bill pending in Concord becomes law, many in New Hampshire could share that unlucky photographer's fate. House Bill 436 protects only clergy who refuse to perform same-sex weddings. As law professor Robin Wilson explains in more detail, if you are a caterer, inn owner, florist, printer or anyone else who offers services to couples getting married, the bill would eliminate your right to maintain your religious convictions by politely declining to participate in a same-sex marriage.

People should not be forced to participate in private activities with which their religious views conflict. If religious opponents of same-sex marriage are to tolerate state support of it, same-sex couples should tolerate their views, too.'s+not+tolerance&articleId=2c9e1de3-bb71-4dcf-9d0a-d6c75a5570ab